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Hey guys, I just joined these forums, and am already loving the wealth of information. I have been out of the whole pc scene for a while sticking to xbox 360 and what not. But I have finally ordered a new pc and here are the specs so far:

Intel i7-2600 3.4ghz, 8gb 1333 GDDR3, 1TB HDD

The only thing thats bothering me is a video card and a psu, I was wondering if you guys can help me out (PS. the price difference I am getting between both cards is only $50 via friend)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127582

OR



The reason why I am skeptical is because I have heard of MSI and that frozrIII design looks solid for keeping noise levels low and keep the card cool, the Zotac I have no idea who they are or how good that card is.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! Need to order this ASAP! (also still undecided on the psu so any suggestions are welcome)

Thanks!
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I love my GTX 580
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Get the GTX 580, the 570 is about 80% the speed of a 580 IIRC but has 66% of the VRMs so it overclocks less. I would get the 580 just to have the peace of mind that I wasn't going to blow the VRMs on my card.
    
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Get the GTX 580, the 570 is about 80% the speed of a 580 IIRC but has 66% of the VRMs so it overclocks less. I would get the 580 just to have the peace of mind that I wasn't going to blow the VRMs on my card.
The TF3 has more VRMs than the reference card and has better cooling. Frying the card isn't a valid concern here.



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Thanks guys, lets say over clocking is not something I would be doing, I believe the MSI comes overclocked. I just dont know what kind of performance the Zotac has. Id be playing at 1920x1080 with hopes of getting a bigger monitor soon, games like metro, crysis, shogun2 etc would like to keep everything at max! is Zotac a really good brand?
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Grab the 580. It's a better card before any after market cooling options and can always be thrown underwater. And if you ever decide to game at better resolution than 1080 that extra 500MB of VRAM will come in handy.
    
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Get that GTx570,it's cheaper and still very close to GTX580..

Plus for MSI GTX570 doesn't have VRM issues..

Plus for GTX580 is extra VRAM 1.5GB vs 1.2GB on GTX570..

I'd still get that GTX570..

P.S> That is reference GTX580 so it doesn't really matter what brand it is regarding the card quality (only for bundle)..

I have Zotac GTX480 and it runs great..

CHEERS..
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not sure if i understand the price difference you mentioned there, but if the difference between 570 and 580 is just $50, then get the 580. specially if you don't plan on overclock, the 570 tfiii would be a bit of a waste...

as far as power supply goes, i'd go with either corsair or seasonic

if you get the 570, go for a 750w power supply, it will be enough even if you want to add a second 570 down the road for sli. couple options SeaSonic X750, Corsair HX750 or Corsair AX750

if you get the 580, then go for a 850w power supply. again, that should safely cover 2xsli option if you wish to do so in the future. Seasonic X850, Corsair AX850 or Corsair HX850

EDIT: if you're on a budget, the Corsair TX series ain't bad either, might make your case a bit messy though, as it's not modular...
Edited by erik257 - 6/2/11 at 2:47pm
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The cooling on the 570 is obviously better than the Zotac so you'd have to take that into account also.

A crappy cooler will limit your OC potential and will make a lot of noise, that's why the 570 is a better choice.
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Hey guys, I just joined these forums, and am already loving the wealth of information. I have been out of the whole pc scene for a while sticking to xbox 360 and what not. But I have finally ordered a new pc and here are the specs so far:

Intel i7-2600 3.4ghz, 8gb 1333 GDDR3, 1TB HDD

The only thing thats bothering me is a video card and a psu, I was wondering if you guys can help me out (PS. the price difference I am getting between both cards is only $50 via friend)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127582

OR

Amazon.com: GeForce GTX 580 AMP 1536 MB GDDR5 384-bit (815MHz/4100MHz) PCI-Express Graphics Card ZT-50102-10P: Electronics


The reason why I am skeptical is because I have heard of MSI and that frozrIII design looks solid for keeping noise levels low and keep the card cool, the Zotac I have no idea who they are or how good that card is.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! Need to order this ASAP! (also still undecided on the psu so any suggestions are welcome)

Thanks!
Somewhat of a tuff choice. The MSI GTX 570 TF III is an awesome solid card without any issues, on the TFIII cards anyway. It will over clock and reach 580 levels.

The Zotac is still a GTX 580, they have no issues at all no matter which vendor, but I've never owned one. It will over clock and surpass the 570 OC proportionately.

I guess it will depend on your budget and the PSU you'll need to include in your budget.

PSU: I always leave room on the PSU as if you were going to purchase a second to SLI. Leave that future proof door open.

Going SLI with the 570 then safely 850 watts.

Going SLI with the 580 then safely 950 watts.

People will tell you about a 100 watts less for each but having some over head and not pushing the power limit past 80% is key for a long life in PSU and components it's running. The ripple that happens at full loads can slowly damage your CPU, MOBO, RAM, and GPU if your pushing it often and/or for long periods of time while gaming.

After weighing the choices on owning both, you'd probably be better to decide than someone else for you which way is best for you.

Hard to find reviews on Zotac since it's mainly out of the US as vendor.

Zotac GTX 580 Review by Overclock3D.net

Ton of reviews on MSI Twin Frozr III and it's one of the best non-reference cards out there on any series.

MSI GTX 570 Twin Frozr III by techPowerUP.com

If I were choosing between your choices I'd go MSI TFIII GTX 570, it's 15% less performance under a GTX 580. Then again your getting a deal for only $50 difference which throws a monkey wrench into the picture and even though it's a Zotac it's still a GTX 580 and I'm bias toward them. You are getting it from a friend and that's safer than buying a used one online from a stranger. So it's a toss up.

After viewing the PSU option - ask yourself which is better for you?
     
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