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Originally Posted by RagingCain View Post
Well great, now any company out there is going to be afraid of punishing people who exploit/reverse engineer their products.
One could only hope.

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Originally Posted by Masked View Post
I'm not saying it's okay...I'm saying:
Sony = Legal
Hacker = Illegal

Security is subjective...You'll feel however you will but, Sony Corp. has yet to do anything ILLEGAL warranting a response.

The hackers, did.

The hackers are at fault, NOT Sony regardless of how much encryption they should/should not have.
Sony has an (probably in legally enforceable terms) obligation to safeguard the personal data of it's customers.

Regardless, anyone who relies on the law to protect themselves where their own sense should have sufficed is a fool and a moron, who could not be more at fault.

The law cannot be crawling up everyone's asses all the time.
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They were well within their rights to sue...They did not go about it correctly and in 2011 it's very hard to prove their case but, they did nothing illegal.

Their data is LEGALLY protected.

The hackers ILLEGALLY obtained the data.

I don't quite understand where all this SOE hate comes from when, by right, they have yet to break the law once.
Maybe we disagree with the very laws that give sony the little legal platform they currently have.

I hate something because it violates what I believe is right, not what the government says is right.
    
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If you took that desk, modified it and freely gave them away as well as plans to do so, I believe you'd most certainly be sued by the father company, absolutely because you're taking THEIR intellectual property and modifying it for personal gain no matter what that gain is.
i work for a car company, so by this train of thought then anyone who mods their car and then sells it on, with the details how to and so forth can be painted with the same brush.

How many of you have changed your windows OS in some way to improve it for your own benefit. At anytime when you modify software (that iosn't open source) you generally break T&C of some kind. read through your licence agreement and you'll see.

All he did was open a known exploit (yes SOE knew about it) and show it to the world whatever other people choose to do with that information is their business.
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One could only hope.



Sony has an (probably in legally enforceable terms) obligation to safeguard the personal data of it's customers.
that is by law.

Imagine if the work experience kid was at your local doctors office and got your details from files and the only thing preventing him from getting it was the draw it was in.

There has to be reasonable security for everything!
Look at chemical companies and medical facilities. Anything that has other peoples details entrusted to another source by law must have reasonable security to prevent it being taken.

OT this was the lowest level of security and SOE knowing that they were being targeted should have gone over their systems with a fine tooth comb

End of story.
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What hotz did illegally was share the keys. They couldn't prove that so it got thrown out of court. He could have very easily shown them how, they get the keys themselves, the CFWs get released anyways. The CFWs aren't illegal, neither was modifying it, it was sharing the encryption keys. However, he really didn't share them but rather shared how to get them so you can make your own signed packages [edit: Probably not true but that's what would be said in court without direct evidence that the keys were shared]. I believe all the CFWs did was allow people to run these "signed" packages. Little modification to the actual firmware, everything still runs with signatures though. At least that's what I got from it, I didn't pay attention though as when it was going on I didn't have a PS3.
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