Overclock.net banner

AMD CPU or Intel advice

2K views 41 replies 18 participants last post by  The Fryer 
#1 ·
What will give me more FPS at gaming ?
phenom 955 | OC 2x560 | ddr3 8GB 1600
2500K OC | 560 SOC | ddr3 8GB 1600
Also which mobo for SLI for AM3(+)
Air cooling Corsair A70 will be enought ? (or will be better i get similar sink as A70 and differend fan like enermax 2x t.b. silence manual 70CFM)
 
#2 ·
ok trying to decrypt that....

2500k is better for gaming.

I have the corsair A50 and it works great. I'm sure the A70 is better
 
#3 ·
2500k, no questions.

Also try using ATi cards with a P8P67 board, they support Crossfire.
 
#4 ·
H67 or P67 or Z68 chipset
Is so much difference with 1600+ ddr3 hyperx blue oc on 2133 right ?
And which brand of mobo ? i really don't like msi so which gigabyte or asus
i don't think UEFI is worth extra money but i am asking about mobo (component) quality
 
#6 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by LukaTCE;13735559
H67 or P67 or Z68 chipset
Is so much difference with 1600+ ddr3 hyperx blue oc on 2133 right ?
And which brand of mobo ? i really don't like msi so which gigabyte or asus
i don't think UEFI is worth extra money but i am asking about mobo (component) quality
Now that you are asking about Intel you are better off asking in the Intel threads.
 
#7 ·
So which one now 2500K 560 SOC or amd 955 2x560
And how big is difference
 
#8 ·
Those two 560's will be bottlenecked by that phenom II, but you will likely get higher performance at HD resolutions than with the 2500k. However, I would still advise to get the 2500k, much better performer overall, clocks much better, and it will actually perform much better in cpu intensive games.

It's really up to you, but I would strongly advise getting the 2500k setup. Good luck
thumb.gif
 
#10 ·
The GPU makes a bigger difference than the CPU. A 560 would be bottlenecked slightly; OC-ing can overcome that. If you plan an AMD build well, i.e. allowing for expansion to "Bulldozer" by using an AM3+ mobo, you can make just as good an AMD build as you could make an Intel build on LGA1155.
 
#11 ·
M5A99X EVO mobo will be good ? or do you suggest any other?
and which cooling ? on hardware-canucks i saw cool master V6 GT(54€) is good http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/34658-cooler-master-v6-gt-cpu-cooler-review-12.html
And which ram OC well ? hyperX blue 8GB ? (88€) patriot g2 8GB(75€) both 1600 (2133 are too expensive in my country) (g.skil don't oc so well right)
Hyperx fan (ram fan 8€) how much it cool ram ? and if is needed ?
amd 955 (110€) 2500K (197) 560 SOC (240€) 560 (180€)
 
#12 ·
Or is better i take Phenom x2 555 (is 30€ cheaper then 955) and unlock 4 core (if it can) and OC it ?
What is difference betwen VRM 6+2 or 8+2 (CPU get more power?) i am planing to get one of 8 core bulldozer when it come
 
#13 ·
The M5A99X mobo is a graet choice.
You can take a 555, unlocking & OC-ing in the meantime, I guess it's a great way to save money. However, remember, there is nothing guaranteed about core unlocking. The 6+2 VRM should be fine for pretty much all, though the 8+2 may provide cleaner power for somewhat more stable overclocking.

If you can find a GA-990XA-UD3 in your area if at a better price, I would recommend it over an M5A99X EVO. It slightly pertains to my personal preference to Gigabyte, however I recommend it also as it is a direct descendant of my 790XT; it has similar features, and a great price. It also has a bigger 8+2 VRM if that interests you.
 
#14 ·
phenom x4 clocked to 3.8ghz to 4.0ghz with the dual gtx 560 will probably be better for gaming then a sandy bridge with a single gtx 560. try to get a am3+ board like what xd 1771 mention. but if i were you... wait for the bulldozer if you can or just get the sandy bridge and then get another gtx 560 later. i rather sport the new then the old. =) sandy bridge would be my build if i were to start from scratch.
 
#15 ·
If you are going to be getting the x8 bulldozer then just wait for them to come out and buy it then. Its pretty stupid to waste money on a phenom II CPU this close to the bulldozer release.
If you absolutely need to have the computer now then go the i5 its miles faster than anything AMD has on the market right now.

Personally I would go with the i5 and the single GPU and just add a second GPU when you get some more money.
 
#17 ·
I need to buy PC now becouse i am on 8 years old PC. My Q9450 P5KC and 5850 is allready 6 weeks at service mobo and gfx broke and they refound money only for gfx and ram for mobo they said is pci-e x16 slot and they didn't admited (pin damaged inside pci-e slot (probably service broke it)and they broke it outside) http://imageshack.us/g/38/dsc00150xa.jpg/
How to test if CPU PSU and HDD are ok ?

And for 2500K i mean gigabyte 560 SOC (which is same as 570 stock)

for GA-990XA-UD3 it can't OC to 2113 but probably isn't big difference betwen 2133 and 2000 right ?

And which ram do you recommend ? g.skill is expensive compared to other brands (+20€)
 
#18 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by Behemoth777;13746613
Those two 560's will be bottlenecked by that phenom II, but you will likely get higher performance at HD resolutions than with the 2500k. However, I would still advise to get the 2500k, much better performer overall, clocks much better, and it will actually perform much better in cpu intensive games.

It's really up to you, but I would strongly advise getting the 2500k setup. Good luck
thumb.gif
Not accurate. Street Fighter is pretty much a CPU intensive game, and the quad core Phenom II will outperform it.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=664&Itemid=63&limit=1&limitstart=9

IF, and only IF you plan on playing on extremely low resolutions e.g 1024X768, get the Sandy Bridge, it will be better.

But, since most people play on high resolution, e.g 1920x1200, get the AMD and 2 560s, you will get much better performance, especially since AMD quad core can be clocked to 4GHz easily in average.
 
#19 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by -X3-;13757086
Not accurate. Street Fighter is pretty much a CPU intensive game, and the quad core Phenom II will outperform it.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=664&Itemid=63&limit=1&limitstart=9

IF, and only IF you plan on playing on extremely low resolutions e.g 1024X768, get the Sandy Bridge, it will be better.

But, since most people play on high resolution, e.g 1920x1200, get the AMD and 2 560s, you will get much better performance, especially since AMD quad core can be clocked to 4GHz easily in average.
Please do some research before you start recommending one product over another it will be better for the OP and everyone else who is wondering the samething he is.
You must not know how much an i5 2500k can be overclocked lolz.
A single SOC 560 Can easily run any game at 1920x1200 maybe not maxed but it can do it fine.
 
#20 ·
i would say it depends on your budget. if you want to go a little cheaper go with amd. intel wil cost you more normally. i have a 940be quad core and a 9800 gt sli setup and i play all my fps games at med-high setting with 60+ fps. but when i decode movies an intel would beat the tar out of me. i would look at what all your planning on doing with the pc. then go from there.
 
#21 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fryer;13758544
i would say it depends on your budget. if you want to go a little cheaper go with amd. intel wil cost you more normally. i have a 940be quad core and a 9800 gt sli setup and i play all my fps games at med-high setting with 60+ fps. but when i decode movies an intel would beat the tar out of me. i would look at what all your planning on doing with the pc. then go from there.
^^Most sense out of all. It depends on how much your willing to spend. Decide on how much your willing to spend on a CPU and mobo, then decided on if you want to run multiple mid range cards or a single high end card. Then you need to decided what PSU your going to use to power whatever config you have. To many variables to think about. My advice to you is build an Intel Rig and a AMD Rig and post those up.
 
#22 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnyFenix;13758565
^^Most sense out of all. It depends on how much your willing to spend. Decide on how much your willing to spend on a CPU and mobo, then decided on if you want to run multiple mid range cards or a single high end card. Then you need to decided what PSU your going to use to power whatever config you have. To many variables to think about. My advice to you is build an Intel Rig and a AMD Rig and post those up.
I allready posted intel and amd config in first post amd and intel config cost same with SLI x8/x8 mobo and for intel P8P67
I see you all say AMD config is better for gaming. Now which ram can please sombody write to how much can this ram max. OC
And which cooling do you recommend from this site they reviewed cool master V6 GT is good http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/34658-cooler-master-v6-gt-cpu-cooler-review-12.html
For PSU i allready have LC arkangel 850W (can sombody tell me how to check PSU if is ok ? (so i need only to check with multimeter or something else ?)
 
#23 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by LukaTCE;13758920
I allready posted intel and amd config in first post amd and intel config cost same with SLI x8/x8 mobo and for intel P8P67
I see you all say AMD config is better for gaming. Now which ram can please sombody write to how much can this ram max. OC
And which cooling do you recommend from this site they reviewed cool master V6 GT is good http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/34658-cooler-master-v6-gt-cpu-cooler-review-12.html
For PSU i allready have LC arkangel 850W (can sombody tell me how to check PSU if is ok ? (so i need only to check with multimeter or something else ?)
I'm sorry but your misinformed. I know this is the AMD subsection but you are asking which one is better and people don't need to lie to you just because they are diehard AMD fans.
Here are the benchmarks of the i5 2500k against the highest stock clocked phenom II x4 the 980 BE
Click me the i5 cleans the board with the phenom II in both stock and overclock capability.
 
#24 ·
Huh seems i wrote all badly
2500K with 560 SOC (same as stock 570) mobo GA-990XA-UD3
AMD 955 or 555 have 2x560 (so in SLI) mobo P8P67
Both with DDR3 8GB 1600 which 1600 ram OC well and max. frequency ?
I think all price for both config are same ~730€
 
#25 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by Behemoth777;13746613
Those two 560's will be bottlenecked by that phenom II, but you will likely get higher performance at HD resolutions than with the 2500k. However, I would still advise to get the 2500k, much better performer overall, clocks much better, and it will actually perform much better in cpu intensive games.

It's really up to you, but I would strongly advise getting the 2500k setup. Good luck
thumb.gif
Slightly overclocked there will be no bottleneck. That term is used too much. Either will perform fine but the 2500K has much better all around performance. Go with either H67 or the Z. The is no advantage with the Z68.
 
#26 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by LukaTCE;13759434
Huh seems i wrote all badly
2500K with 560 SOC (same as stock 570) mobo GA-990XA-UD3
AMD 955 or 555 have 2x560 (so in SLI) mobo P8P67
Both with DDR3 8GB 1600 which 1600 ram OC well and max. frequency ?
I think all price for both config are same ~730€
The intel build with the single 560 SOC will be more then enough to run anything you want to play. The dual GPU setup is good but wont perform nearly as well as a single GPU with an i5 2500k.
Another question. How many screens are you going to be running this on?
 
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Top