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I liked arch a lot when I tried it, but like you said wireless was a pain to set up. I never could get WPA2 to work...
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Originally Posted by EntTheGod View Post
arch is cool to toy with... i see why people like it...

but i just dont see the point in something thats bleeding edge :/ it lacks stability... and not to mention, a manual install with arch is just overly complicated, there is much easier ways to set up a minimal system (with more stability i might add), yeah the arch install isnt too hard and there is lots of documentation... but the time required to set up a system is like double what it should be

ill stick with my debian stuff, but i may get a machine up just for arch some time to toy with it when im bored
I have done it so many times I can get from a blank hdd to a working desktop environment with commonly used apps in less than 30 minutes.
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I have done it so many times I can get from a blank hdd to a working desktop environment with commonly used apps in less than 30 minutes.
and i can just do #! in 5 minutes and be happy cause it comes fairly minimal with a lot of software i use not including install time where i get to go afk ofc... that might bump it up to 15
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Good for you... but that has nothing to do with this topic. Go back to playing your little windows games.

OP, Good to hear you got wireless working. When I was toying with Arch I had an issue too, but then again, almost every distro has given me issue with my odd wireless cards. I had to use ndiswrapper, as netman didn't work for me no matter how much I touched it with a baby jesus. Arch is a great distro, I hope it remains stable enough for you to want to keep it.
From what I have dabbled in it these past 2-3 days, of course everything has been "stable" for myself. Actually looking forward to breaking it and trying to work myself back outta a hole.

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I was having a hard time with the terminal and all those sudo commands :\\
Was the same for me when I first started. Luckly I have been dappling with *nix OSes for ~2 years now, just never cared to try Arch.

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OP: Check this out, it's what you need for your netbook (enable BFQ yourself in the PKGBUILD).

I don't know what steps you needed for your wireless, but if you compiled your own module, you'll have to do it again
Thank you for this man, but sadly my 1201N has the N330 which is a 1st gen desktop ION dual core Atom (whatta mouthful) I'm going to have to look into kernel configurations myself. Last I checked they really weren't "too hard" to check and mostly un-check things.
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Originally Posted by Rothen View Post
I didn't even know this existed .

Rave: Arch's package manager is simply beautiful. If there's a program for Linux out there, it is likely to be in the repos or the aur. Its speed and lack of bloat is simply wonderful, and everything I put on there is what I want to put on there.

Rant: They switched to gnome 3 way too fast. Hell, it doesn't even have a dedicated program (except for the gnome-tweak-tool) that you can change the theme with. Not only that, but I can't roll it back without changing my mirrors or doing something else crazy.

To OP: There are some themes out there that are better than the stock theme. Here are some shell themes:
http://gnome-shell.deviantart.com/gallery/28081982

Also Atolm, egtk (elementary, get this from the AUR), and elegant brit are all now ported to gtk3.
Thank you for these! I have seen a couple already, just haven't had time to mess. I want alla sleep.
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Originally Posted by Waffleboy View Post
I liked arch a lot when I tried it, but like you said wireless was a pain to set up. I never could get WPA2 to work...
Ouch, actually browsing and typing this here on WPA2.....

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Originally Posted by cavallino View Post
I have done it so many times I can get from a blank hdd to a working desktop environment with commonly used apps in less than 30 minutes.

Edited by Nburnes - 6/3/11 at 10:58am
    
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That picture is hilarious
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I hope they get on making more GTK3 themes. They're all terrible atm and it makes my system ugly . I don't think they switched to Gnome 3 too early (I wish it was available earlier), I just wish they made a [temporary] gnome2 set of packages.

Clyde for best AUR helper
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I always use yaourt whats the difference between that and clyde?
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I always use yaourt whats the difference between that and clyde?
Yaourt was considered old and slow years ago. Clyde's written in lua and its much faster and maintains the pacman shortcuts. I really like the output, it's much easier on the eyes. I like to alias pacman=clyde and completely forget that I'm using an AUR helper. It also hides the aria2 download stdout (if you use aria2 with pacman) which spams your screen when you download anything.
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I hope they get on making more GTK3 themes. They're all terrible atm and it makes my system ugly . I don't think they switched to Gnome 3 too early (I wish it was available earlier), I just wish they made a [temporary] gnome2 set of packages.

Clyde for best AUR helper
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I always use yaourt whats the difference between that and clyde?
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Yaourt was considered old and slow years ago. Clyde's written in lua and its much faster and maintains the pacman shortcuts. I really like the output, it's much easier on the eyes. I like to alias pacman=clyde and completely forget that I'm using an AUR helper. It also hides the aria2 download stdout (if you use aria2 with pacman) which spams your screen when you download anything.
Like I mentioned, I'm digging paktahn. It's a re-write of yaourt, as you may already know. I'll probably get around to looking at other AUR helpers.

Right now looking at trimming my kernel down, mem usage seems pretty high for myself.

Edit: Added screenshots of my current desktop. Literally, even though I simply followed instructions, I feel accomplished.


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I liked arch a lot when I tried it, but like you said wireless was a pain to set up. I never could get WPA2 to work...
I have a saved wpa_supplicant configuration file that is on a thumb drive which i use for every time I set up Arch. It took me about 45 minutes to work out how to set up wpa_supplicant right, but now it is simply a matter of copying the file off the flash drive (well I don't even need to do that really) and running wpa_supplicant -iwlan0 -B -c/path/to/file.conf and dhcpcd -l 9999999 wlan0 (I need to manually specify a long lease time or it drops out to early).

Once I have the DE set up I use wicd or networkmanager and the above is no longer needed, but it saves me heaps of time when I'm still setting things up at the start.
    
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