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If i use 3 sticks of DDR3 ram to achieve 12gb's of memory that's going to snap this into single channel mode isn't it?
No, probably async dual channel.
 
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As I noted in the op, it needs to be an Nvidia based solution. She needs to be able to use CUDA for some of her programs. Thanks though.
Ah my bad. Sometimes I read so fast I forget what I read? Yea thats it!
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Edited by [\/]Paris - 6/3/11 at 4:03pm
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I find the initial choice of parts way off for a $900 ($820 without tax) budget, there is so much better you could get. Give me a moment to configure that build...

Will your friend be able to support an upgrade to Bulldozer in July-August, or will there be no upgrades i.e. best option right away?

3x4GB will run dual channel until all that RAM is actually utilized. Then it will switch to single channel. This is called flex memory or interleaving. Since whatever she is probably going to be doing on this build is going to be RAM intensive, single channel would significantly impact and hamper performance. A better option would be 2x4GB + 2x2GB for 12GB operation, or 4x4GB, or 2x4/4x2GB.
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I find the initial choice of parts way off for a $900 ($820 without tax) budget, there is so much better you could get. Give me a moment to configure that build...

Will your friend be able to support an upgrade to Bulldozer in July-August, or will there be no upgrades i.e. best option right away?
Wow ok, well as far as an upgrade path, she wants this thing to last for a while so the option to move on to a bulldozer setup might be preferred. At first she seemed very intent on it costing $900 but at this point I think she's flexible up to $1000 at maximum shipped & taxed.

Edit: Ah ok I see what you're saying about the ram, that helps a lot!
Appreciate you help.

Edit2: Airflow might be a problem with my current pick, was looking into the HAFs.
Edited by [\/]Paris - 6/3/11 at 4:33pm
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My recommendation (for immediate purchase with BD upgrade option) isn't too much different from the original build:

Phenom II x4 955 - $115 shipped
ASUS M5A88-V EVO - $120 shipped (though there will be better mobos out soon)
Patriot Signature 2x4GB DDR3-1600 - $77 shipped [buy.com] (note that 1600 CL9 is equal to or very slightly outperforms 1333 CL7). Buying two could be a good idea.
Zotac GTX 460 1GB - $157 + shipping, $30 rebate
Rosewill Green 530W + Rosewill Challenger - $90 shipped (don't be fooled by brand name, this is a GREAT PSU for price! Ask any of the PSU gurus here and they will recommend it)
Samsung F3 1TB - $59.50 shipped
Samsung F4 2TB HDD + LITE-ON 24X DVD drive - $93 shipped (this 2TB HDD is due to the platter arrangement actually as fast as an F3 1TB, but I have added it alongside the F3 to match your initial build's 2 HDDs)
Windows 7 OEM x64 - $96 shipped [Supermediastore]
Subotal: $807.50 + $7 shipping
Total after taxes (Assuming about 12%): $912.24 (note: taxes may not apply to all stores)
Total after rebates: 882.24

This case has decent airflow. In any case, since I'm pretty sure this build will not involve overclocking (for now?), it probably won't matter too much.
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My recommendation (for immediate purchase with BD upgrade option) isn't too much different from the original build:

Phenom II x4 955 - $115 shipped
ASUS M5A88-V EVO - $120 shipped (though there will be better mobos out soon)
Patriot Signature 2x4GB DDR3-1600 - $77 shipped [buy.com] (note that 1600 CL9 is equal to or very slightly outperforms 1333 CL7). Buying two could be a good idea.
Zotac GTX 460 1GB - $157 + shipping, $30 rebate
Rosewill Green 530W + Rosewill Challenger - $90 shipped (don't be fooled by brand name, this is a GREAT PSU for price! Ask any of the PSU gurus here and they will recommend it)
Samsung F3 1TB - $59.50 shipped
Samsung F4 2TB HDD + LITE-ON 24X DVD drive - $93 shipped (this 2TB HDD is due to the platter arrangement actually as fast as an F3 1TB, but I have added it alongside the F3 to match your initial build's 2 HDDs)
Windows 7 OEM x64 - $96 shipped [Supermediastore]
Subotal: $807.50 + $7 shipping
Total after taxes (Assuming about 12%): $912.24 (note: taxes may not apply to all stores)
Total after rebates: 882.24

This case has decent airflow. In any case, since I'm pretty sure this build will not involve overclocking (for now?), it probably won't matter too much.
Well thanks a lot for all the tips! I am curious though, why a 460 1gb instead of a 560?
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I don't see how the 560 (non-Ti) is much of an improvement over a 460 1GB. Both overclock well, both have 336SP on 40nm.... just one's power consumption is slightly lower, but not significant to a degree that the 560 is worth it. This 460 is less expensive and will offer the same performance.
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You could do a sandy bridge build for $900...
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You could do a sandy bridge build for $900...
Yes you can do a sandybridge in this range but you end up having to cannibalize from the RAM and GPU to get there. This build is supposed to be more focused on GPU & RAM strength due to her 3d modeling needs.

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I don't see how the 560 (non-Ti) is much of an improvement over a 460 1GB. Both overclock well, both have 336SP on 40nm.... just one's power consumption is slightly lower, but not significant to a degree that the 560 is worth it. This 460 is less expensive and will offer the same performance.
I'm still kind of split on that one. I mean the 560 represents a fairly consistent 10 fps improvement versus the 460 1gb.



Looking as this graph from tom's hardware it seems like there's a fairly consistent spacing between the 460, 560, and 560ti models. I'll grant you that with rebates you can shave a little off the 460 & 560ti models, but a 560 still seems like a decent compromise imo.

This GPU won't be overclocked so base clocks need to be solid to begin with.

Thanks a lot for all your help, and for saving my butt on my last AMD build as well.
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