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post #51 of 447
Your rant is unjustified.
-Prices everywhere are different for every brand, not just Razer - This is called finding a bargain.
-China has an outstanding history of making phoney products - You can never be 100% sure that that cheap product is even genuine on the inside.
-You are stereotyping - Lack of constructive criticism. You're simply being whiny.

I own tons of peripherals from multiple brands. Logitech, Steelseries & Razer. As for Razer's products, I own the diamondback, goliathus, naga, lachesis, deathadder, ironclad, lycosa, lycosa mirror & blackwidow.

One thing I've noticed is that their products tend to wear out quickly, in which I'll just rma. However they are undoubtedly excellent to use while they last. The quality of material feels good, software & firmware is always updated, and as a comparison to other brands, the faultiness rate is close to zero here in my country. From a personal perspective, I don't regret 90% of my purchases from Razer. I consider that a plus as I'm an extremely picky person (which also explains the multiple amount of peripherals. So no, I'm not a fanboy. I'm just practical).

The only complaint I have for Razer is the fact that while the rubber they use has a good feel, it simply wears out too quickly. My lycosa's wasd & space keys have essentially disappeared (but that was resolved in the mirror). My lachesis's case was so extreme the entire mouse turned into a block of sticky glue (can't really "complain" about that since I used it for years). The ironclad on the otherhand, despite using a different material, had it's surface wear so quickly it became uneven, rendering it useless to me.

Either than this product lifespan issue, no complaints whatsoever.

If you find the post offensive, I apologize as I'm not trying to malign you; don't be oversensitive and read it for what it's worth.
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Originally Posted by Dust View Post
Your rant is unjustified.
-Prices everywhere are different for every brand, not just Razer - This is called finding a bargain.
-China has an outstanding history of making phoney products - You can never be 100% sure that that cheap product is even genuine on the inside.
-You are stereotyping - Lack of constructive criticism. You're simply being whiny.

I own tons of peripherals from multiple brands. Logitech, Steelseries & Razer. As for Razer's products, I own the diamondback, goliathus, naga, lachesis, deathadder, ironclad, lycosa, lycosa mirror & blackwidow.

One thing I've noticed is that their products tend to wear out quickly, in which I'll just rma. However they are undoubtedly excellent to use while they last. The quality of material feels good, software & firmware is always updated, and as a comparison to other brands, the faultiness rate is close to zero here in my country. From a personal perspective, I don't regret 90% of my purchases from Razer. I consider that a plus as I'm an extremely picky person (which also explains the multiple amount of peripherals. So no, I'm not a fanboy. I'm just practical).

The only complaint I have for Razer is the fact that while the rubber they use has a good feel, it simply wears out too quickly. My lycosa's wasd & space keys have essentially disappeared (but that was resolved in the mirror). My lachesis's case was so extreme the entire mouse turned into a block of sticky glue (can't really "complain" about that since I used it for years). The ironclad on the otherhand, despite using a different material, had it's surface wear so quickly it became uneven, rendering it useless to me.

Either than this product lifespan issue, no complaints whatsoever.

If you find the post offensive, I apologize as I'm not trying to malign you; don't be oversensitive and read it for what it's worth.
I always thought their plastic felt cheap and almost toyish in your hand, they also have crazy QC issues like the Black Widows spacebar pulling down the alt keys because of a little piece of plastic or the Mamba scroll wheel squeaking because they didn't grease it.
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Cost of living guys. Cost of living.
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I always thought their plastic felt cheap and almost toyish in your hand, they also have crazy QC issues like the Black Widows spacebar pulling down the alt keys because of a little piece of plastic or the Mamba scroll wheel squeaking because they didn't grease it.
Been using blackwidow for months now with no problems. None of those problems are consistent design faults, just unlucky imo. So just rma and you'll be fine
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They are built like cheap stuffs and meant to last like cheap stuffs. The problem is they don't cost like cheap stuffs. Though they work and won't fall apart in your hand. That is apparently enough for people to swear by them. Don't under estimate the power of pretty box, semi permanent black rubber paint, and that glowing logo.
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I'm just glad I figured out why the spacebar sticks on the Black Widow Ultimate.

But carry on with the ranting.
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Incomes are different in China, minimum wage is around ¥1,000, so this thing is VERY expensive
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Razer support is terrible. My Deathadder broke within half a year and they refuse to honor my warranty because they cant find my S/n in their system even though I had the invoice from Newegg!

This is not to mention that it took about a week of back and forth emails for them to come to this conclusion.
wow, that's sucks. That's another thing to bash is their short warranty compared to logitech's. for customer service, I contacted them once and they were really helpful, but everyone's experience will vary.
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They are built like cheap stuffs and meant to last like cheap stuffs. The problem is they don't cost like cheap stuffs. Though they work and won't fall apart in your hand. That is apparently enough for people to swear by them. Don't under estimate the power of pretty box, semi permanent black rubber paint, and that glowing logo.
this was pretty much what I was trying to say with this thread
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Thats not a real razor they are getting in China. What is available in China is likely a Black Market knock-off product. The Razor sold in America and Europe is produced in China under the US and European patents and generally has to meet certain qc requirements. The Junk in china could be the exact same thing even branded, but is being produced off lease or without license and being poured into the Chinese market by another company, likely the producer - and being sold w/out Razor's consent(they are making $0.00 per unit sold.) . This is fairly common and shows China's disregard for patents and intellectual property, and their contempt for international trade relationships.

Sadly, it would be corporate suicide for Razer to make allegations against China for what happens in China. This is the good and bad of using the cheap Chinese manufacturing, but in the end the company will go out of business, the customers will feel foolish for purchasing the junk, and a Chinese corporation will continue to produce and sell the original products in places that do not enforce international patent law.
Those are not from black market. There is like a market places where only official approved big shops can sell stuff there, and razer prices are all like this kind of low price over there.

Basically it can tell you how much $ razer can earn. Those razer in China has exactly quality and packing, just the price is like 20% of price in USA.
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