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It's funny that people will actually think that any country would do anything but ignore this whenever it suits them.
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Originally Posted by SGT. Peppers View Post
The more rights I get as a human, the happier I am (as long as they're not something crazy). Everyone should have the right to access the internet its one the greatest things civilization has done.
For every right that you believe you are entitled, you must consider - At whose expense?
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If its a human right does that mean that the government will give "needy" people free internet at the expense of everyone else?
And if internet is a human right why isnt driving?
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If we have this right, why do we even have to pay for internet then?
quoted for troof!



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For every right that you believe you are entitled, you must consider - At whose expense?

Hmmm, you're right, I didn't think about that. I guess the worst case scenario could be that a bunch of dudes start raging real hard over there loss of the internet and then use this as a way to maybe riot a little bit.
Edited by SGT. Peppers - 6/3/11 at 7:52pm
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If we have this right, why do we even have to pay for internet then?
Just because it is a human right does not mean you do not have to pay for it...
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Everyone shall have the right to freedom of expression; this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media of his choice.
materials for art, writing, recording speech all cost money, so does the internet.
-1 internets for you :Z
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For pity's sake, not more human rights crap. I don't know what idiots keep baseing laws on human rights but their original ideals were to stop more serious issues. You know, torture, persecution, etc...

I find it laughable how something like commiting genocide and denying internet access could both be percieved as violating "human rights". The more non-sense they add to it the more people will start crying out about how their human rights are being violated over trivial things.

This is a good thing for people of the nation's who are part of the UN, but it leads to other pointless crap. Try this scenario, if its against human rights to take away someone's internet access then that means in turn convicted criminals would be having their human rights violated. At present inmates are not allowed access to the internet in British prisons. At least not Cat B and above from what I recall.
You are wrong on so many levels... I dont even know how to respond.
    
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This is a good thing for people of the nation's who are part of the UN, but it leads to other pointless crap. Try this scenario, if its against human rights to take away someone's internet access then that means in turn convicted criminals would be having their human rights violated. At present inmates are not allowed access to the internet in British prisons. At least not Cat B and above from what I recall.
Don't we also lose other basic rights in prison as well? I wouldn't call that an applicable scenario.
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I disagree with this assessment. People can live just fine without the internet.
 
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For pity's sake, not more human rights crap. I don't know what idiots keep baseing laws on human rights but their original ideals were to stop more serious issues. You know, torture, persecution, etc...

I find it laughable how something like commiting genocide and denying internet access could both be percieved as violating "human rights". The more non-sense they add to it the more people will start crying out about how their human rights are being violated over trivial things.

This is a good thing for people of the nation's who are part of the UN, but it leads to other pointless crap. Try this scenario, if its against human rights to take away someone's internet access then that means in turn convicted criminals would be having their human rights violated. At present inmates are not allowed access to the internet in British prisons. At least not Cat B and above from what I recall.
In most countries I know people serving time in prison have very little rights, in fact you give up your rights when you willfully break the law. What is even more unfortunate for those convicted is, the punishment is pretty much forever, you are branded a criminal until you have the money to get that tattoo removed (not cheap & not guaranteed either!)...

I don't think that protesters (specifically rioters) are entitled to rights, I think a lot of people are trying to protect the people from government interference which may lead to casualties, like crowd control methods which can easily go bad. (Like induce a riot)

When the government uses methods like this to close communications, they are trying to prevent a civil war or an uprising, more often than not. If we look at the middle east and you were the ruler of one of those countries, and there was a definite possibility that facebook could bring your country to bad things, what would you do?

Turning off the phones & internet may actually only induce a riot though, so the sword is really double edged. Damned if you do, and damned if you don't. It would be tough to be a ruler in countries like these where the poor demand action NOW or change NOW, worse yet, you have other countries noses in your business telling you what you can and can't do...

Meh!
Edited by _GTech - 6/3/11 at 8:24pm
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At present inmates are not allowed access to the internet in British prisons.
If everyone had internet access in prison, no one would care about the law anymore. It'd be anarchy.
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