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Originally Posted by crust_cheese;13744266 
Tanenbaum's Operating Systems - Design and Implementation come to mind, especially if you've got a few GB left for a MINIX install.

Well, I am focusing on Windows right now.
Of course I will try a new OS. But that is once I have another computer to do it one. I don't want to dual boot.
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Originally Posted by Darqside;13744166 
Also, I have never been really able to work with really high-end stuff. Which irritates me. I feel like I could have learned a lot more but was limited by my hardware >frown.gif

Bro, I've been in The same situation for the past three years, except for recently Getting away from my parents and living with my Grandmother. - Only fourteen though, so there's a bit of difference. I've really never touched High-end stuff unless a friend was having a Issue I knew about, because I have gotten faulty Hard-ware in the past, which really bites. xD
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I always liked reading about one of the things OCN could never teach me (sorry OCN, most of you guys don't have computer engineering degrees!)... how the hardware ACTUALLY works. I took a computer engineering course in college and we went over the basics of how computer hardware really functions. I've continued the learning on my own and programed some basic logic circuits just for fun.

It isn't the most practical thing to learn unless you are in the field, but I always felt like learning all this stuff about tweaking and hardware was pretty silly when most people barely know what a transistor or logic gate is. Understanding them is a bit more complicated than the usual OCN topics, but I found it very rewarding. Wiki has TONS of pages of accurate information on MOSFETS, logic gates, flip flips, memory, shifters, adders, ALU's, semiconductors, IC's, microprocessors, fabrication and tons of other subjects that tackle computing from the science/engineering side.
    
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I tend to learn by doing. My programming and network skills I learned a university, and my troubleshooting skills I started through my hobby, but developed while at university. When it comes to diagnostics, I found programming a good way of developming my way of approaching technical issues as you're forever coming across scenarios that make you go "what the hell do you mean invalid function?" tongue.gif

With that said since I go the job I have now, which is in the support department at an IT security firm, I've learned a lot more about how businesses deploy networks now that I'm acually working in the industry. Much more than I ever did in any university module. To be fair its easy enough running a couple of desktops and laptops in a workgroup at home. But its another thing entirely when you have to deal with proxies, mail filters, e-mail servers, domain conrollers, and firewalls in a large organisations network.

At home if your internet suddenly starts running slow it could mean that someone on your network is hoarding the bandwidth, or your ISP is having issues. In a large nework it could be an issue with a rogue client sending out spam, a domain controller or DNS server having a fault, a problem with the proxy, or even an update on the firewall closing off vital ports, etc...

My point being there's a hell of a lot to learn and you won't lay a good foundation unless you either put the time in to read, and I don't just mean on forums.
post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by DayoftheGreek;13744330 
I always liked reading about one of the things OCN could never teach me (sorry OCN, most of you guys don't have computer engineering degrees!)... how the hardware ACTUALLY works. I took a computer engineering course in college and we went over the basics of how computer hardware really functions. I've continued the learning on my own and programed some basic logic circuits just for fun.

It isn't the most practical thing to learn unless you are in the field, but I always felt like learning all this stuff about tweaking and hardware was pretty silly when most people barely know what a transistor or logic gate is. Understanding them is a bit more complicated than the usual OCN topics, but I found it very rewarding. Wiki has TONS of pages of accurate information on MOSFETS, logic gates, flip flips, memory, shifters, adders, ALU's, semiconductors, IC's, microprocessors, fabrication and tons of other subjects that tackle computing from the science/engineering side.

Yeah I know it may seem a bit silly to you at times. I have a slight interest of learning how it actually works down the the materials, but since I do not want to become an engineer, or in the same sense, a coder. I will do that for fun.

I have no desire to study computers in school. I have big plans and studying computers engineering will interfere with that. Good to know, but just overkill for me.
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You can try to get A+ cert if you want. IF you want to get better without going to school, basically self learning, you will need to research or read TONS!
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post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by t4ct1c47;13744345 
I tend to learn by doing. My programming and network skills I learned a university, and my troubleshooting skills I started through my hobby, but developed while at university. When it comes to diagnostics, I found programming a good way of developming my way of approaching technical issues as you're forever coming across scenarios that make you go "what the hell do you mean invalid function?" tongue.gif

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At home if your internet suddenly starts running slow it could mean that someone on your network is hoarding the bandwidth, or your ISP is having issues. In a large nework it could be an issue with a rogue client sending out spam, a domain controller or DNS server having a fault, a problem with the proxy, or even an update on the firewall closing off vital ports, etc...

My point being there's a hell of a lot to learn and you won't lay a good foundation unless you either put the time in to read, and I don't just mean on forums.

yes, i get what you are saying. I don't work off Windows 7 HomeGroups though. Downloading from my server is too slow if accessed through HomeGroups. I just network it. Of course I set IP's for each one for identification, and DNS servers. I access my router and set everything in there too. I open ports that need to be opened, and I configure my firewalls to allow certain permissions. It's not hard and I picked it up quickly, I am sure anyone can. I want to dig deeper too.
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Originally Posted by lazi punk;13744434 
You can try to get A+ cert if you want. IF you want to get better without going to school, basically self learning, you will need to research or read TONS!


A+ and Net+ is what I will be going for in my self studies. I have training videos and study guides to help.
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post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by Darqside;13744293 
Well, I am focusing on Windows right now.
Of course I will try a new OS. But that is once I have another computer to do it one. I don't want to dual boot.

It's of interest mainly to learn about the insides of an operating system, MINIX being a free open-source UNIX-like OS for educational use. UNIX makes the world move.
post #20 of 20
just mess around in it when you mess up try to fix it yourself. Sometimes it takes a week to fix a small problem or you mess up your os beyond repair doing it but that's how you learn.
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