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post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by Nocturin View Post
I'm interested as to know why, if you dont mind explaining.
Because decent parts cost way more than that, not to mention the hours and hours of work that goes into these things. They can't just sell them at material costs.
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post #12 of 15
I just got one awhile back. A friend had got it new but there was a problem with the control board and it was past the warranty period. So I got it fixed and have it on a QX6700. Just got finished with a overclock of 3.6 and surprisingly it held the temps down fine. After a hour on prime Ltt, the unit showed -65c and my temps of cores all showed 5c the whole time cpu 17c (mainly due to the heating patch that comes with the unit). Without the patch on during prime i had the cpu temp dowm to -10c but i think it would go lower if left off. I'm going to test it more tommorrow and try to hit 4.0 on the chip and ill let you know how the unit does.

I do believe you get what you pay for and with the higher end processors now I doubt it will hold temps down, in that case you would have to get a unit like SDumper or LittleDevil make (those two are just off the top of my head) but for something comparible to a qx6700, I think it would be fine. Be aware though theres been alot of reports of brand new units coming with little problems like the control board in my units case and other things.
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So what kinda money should i be looking at spending on a unit? An can i run a unit for every day use?
post #14 of 15
A chiller might be a better idea for 24/7 use,SDumper and LittleDevil also engineeer those i beleive.
Of course temps will not be as low,i manage to stay subzero on the cpu+both gpu's on idle and an absolute max of 5c(cpu) @1.6v in prime using a 6000 btu unit but AMD chips don't run so hot..
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post #15 of 15
I'd rather say no to a chiller for everyday use, the amount of insulation and in general looks and extra weight if the computer will ever move becomes an issue.

Almost all phase units can be built for 24/7, with the exception of the super low temperature cascades which need thawing time as oil separation is inherently never 100% and eventually requires a defrost cycle (but that might be an hour per 24 running).

You can expect to pay $6-800 for a phase unit, and in that price range you may not be able to get a cased unit.

It depends on what you want. While the old moto for the working world is "quick, cheap, good; pick two", the moto for the phase world is " 'cheap', quiet, cold; pick one and a half".

Not to seem like I'm joking this off, but quiet is actually harder to pull off than anything. Benching units are a cheaper easier thing to produce most days of the week. Just take an assortment of overly large parts for the application and get to it.
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