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MSI boards were reputed to KABOOM on your face before on AMD boards. It was mainly because of their low number of VRM's (4+1), and a fair amount of their boards had VRM's without any cooling.

But with this sandy bridge release, they ramped up their VRM's from 4+1 to 6+2. 6 power phases should be enough for 95w TDP CPU's. They used to have 4 power phases for 140w CPU's. lol.

But if you want to switch to Asus boards, which is not a bad idea at all, go for it! I just wanted to clear that up, so you'd get the right information.
I agree with you on MSI. I dont think you will have any problems with any of the higher end Intel MSI motherboards
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post #22 of 111
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I leave the computer for like 5 minutes and have all these responses!! This is a great community.

I'm not going to quote anyone in this post but you should know who you are:

-RAM has come down between
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-20231440-L03C

and

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-461-_-Product

The Sniper is looking more appealing, but how does the low voltage affect things?


- PSU Between Bronze and non Bronze Cert. $20 difference (with sale on non) Worth it?

-Still at a stalemate on the boards; MSI is cheaper with MIR but it seems like the consensus here is leaning to the ASUS.

-Still note sure about which way I'm going with the GPU.

Thanks for all of the help thus far, ladies and gents!
post #23 of 111
Hey I'm new here but I'm just going to chime in on the PSU... 80+ certified PSU's will give a constant amount of power at high load and are guaranteed to do so, whereas the non certified PSU's are less reliable in those situations So I would definitely take the 80+ especially with a system that powerful
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post #24 of 111
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In ascending order (low to high) these are the GTX 570 cards that newegg carry. THe top few either drop below or get close to dropping below $300. How do I tell if they are reference?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...CE&PageSize=20
post #25 of 111
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Originally Posted by Infinite Jest View Post
I leave the computer for like 5 minutes and have all these responses!! This is a great community.

I'm not going to quote anyone in this post but you should know who you are:

-RAM has come down between
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-20231440-L03C

and

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-461-_-Product

The Sniper is looking more appealing, but how does the low voltage affect things?


- PSU Between Bronze and non Bronze Cert. $20 difference (with sale on non) Worth it?

-Still at a stalemate on the boards; MSI is cheaper with MIR but it seems like the consensus here is leaning to the ASUS.

-Still note sure about which way I'm going with the GPU.

Thanks for all of the help thus far, ladies and gents!
-In theory, you could increase the voltage on the low voltage snipers and get even more performance out of them!! Although this is theory, I don't have evidence to support. Again you won't notice very much fps difference with 7 vs 9 timings or 1333 vs 1600 frequencies.

-Post the two power supplies you're looking at, as I've said, the build quality is much more important than the efficiency, certified or not.

-Don't know much about the two motherboards here, but I will be bias and go with ASUS only because I have 2 of their motherboards and they have never failed me in 6 years.

-The GTX570 is an excellent card, much cheaper for the performance than the 580's.

-OCN is full of lurkers waiting to unburrow at the first interesting post, especially new build posts!!
Edited by OrangeBunnies - 6/4/11 at 1:19pm
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[256GB Samsung 840 Pro] [2x 3TB Green WD30EZRX JBOD] [Corsair H100i] [Windows 7 Pro 64-bit] 
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[23.6" Asus VE247H] [Razer BlackWidow] [Corsair HX850] [Corsair Carbide 500R White] 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
[Logitech G400] [SteelSeries QcK+] [SteelSeries Siberia V2 Headset] [Zalman ZM-MIC 1 Microphone] 
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[Logitech X-540 5.1 Speaker] [Logitech S220 2.1 Speaker] [Bitfenix Recon Fan Controller] [TRENDnet TEW-684UB] 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
[AMD A6-3400M 2.35GHz @ 1.0875V] [AMD HD 6650M] [2x4GB Corsair Vengence 1333MHz 9-8-8-8 @ 1.5V] [500GB Seagate 5400rpm] 
Optical DriveOSMonitorMouse
[DVD Slimdrive] [Windows 8 Pro 64-bit] [15.6" LED backlight LCD] [Logitech M305] 
Audio
[Nokia Mini-Speakers MD-8] 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
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[500GB WD Blue] [LG 24X DVD-Writer] [Hyper TX3] [Windows 7 64-bit] 
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[256GB Samsung 840 Pro] [2x 3TB Green WD30EZRX JBOD] [Corsair H100i] [Windows 7 Pro 64-bit] 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
[23.6" Asus VE247H] [Razer BlackWidow] [Corsair HX850] [Corsair Carbide 500R White] 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
[Logitech G400] [SteelSeries QcK+] [SteelSeries Siberia V2 Headset] [Zalman ZM-MIC 1 Microphone] 
AudioAudioOtherOther
[Logitech X-540 5.1 Speaker] [Logitech S220 2.1 Speaker] [Bitfenix Recon Fan Controller] [TRENDnet TEW-684UB] 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
[AMD A6-3400M 2.35GHz @ 1.0875V] [AMD HD 6650M] [2x4GB Corsair Vengence 1333MHz 9-8-8-8 @ 1.5V] [500GB Seagate 5400rpm] 
Optical DriveOSMonitorMouse
[DVD Slimdrive] [Windows 8 Pro 64-bit] [15.6" LED backlight LCD] [Logitech M305] 
Audio
[Nokia Mini-Speakers MD-8] 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
[Athlon II X2 215 3.4GHz @ 1.4V] [Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P (rev3.1)] [XFX 8600GT XXX 256MB GDDR3] [2x2GB G.skill Ripjaws-X 1333 7-7-7-20 @ 1.5V] 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
[500GB WD Blue] [LG 24X DVD-Writer] [Hyper TX3] [Windows 7 64-bit] 
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[ASUS VS197D-P 18.5"] [ONN 19" LCD HDTV] [Antec Basiq VP-450] [Cooler Master Elite 343] 
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post #26 of 111
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Hey I'm new here but I'm just going to chime in on the PSU... 80+ certified PSU's will give a constant amount of power at high load and are guaranteed to do so, whereas the non certified PSU's are less reliable in those situations So I would definitely take the 80+ especially with a system that powerful
The non-bronze is rated 80+ here (note this is $15 cheaper with code):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-17139006-L03B



Here is the Bronze cert:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139021
post #27 of 111
I had a old TX850 non bronze and it was great! Corsair makes good PS so I'd go with the cheaper one personally.
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Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
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post #28 of 111
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Originally Posted by Infinite Jest View Post
The non-bronze is rated 80+ here (note this is $15 cheaper with code):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-17139006-L03B



Here is the Bronze cert:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139021

They are both great power supplies made by Seasonic, you can't really go wrong with either, but the more expensive TX750 V2 is the updated version with some improvements on the internals, whether it's worth $15 more it's hard to say.

Here's a review on the TX 750 V2
Edited by OrangeBunnies - 6/4/11 at 1:31pm
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[256GB Samsung 840 Pro] [2x 3TB Green WD30EZRX JBOD] [Corsair H100i] [Windows 7 Pro 64-bit] 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
[23.6" Asus VE247H] [Razer BlackWidow] [Corsair HX850] [Corsair Carbide 500R White] 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
[Logitech G400] [SteelSeries QcK+] [SteelSeries Siberia V2 Headset] [Zalman ZM-MIC 1 Microphone] 
AudioAudioOtherOther
[Logitech X-540 5.1 Speaker] [Logitech S220 2.1 Speaker] [Bitfenix Recon Fan Controller] [TRENDnet TEW-684UB] 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
[AMD A6-3400M 2.35GHz @ 1.0875V] [AMD HD 6650M] [2x4GB Corsair Vengence 1333MHz 9-8-8-8 @ 1.5V] [500GB Seagate 5400rpm] 
Optical DriveOSMonitorMouse
[DVD Slimdrive] [Windows 8 Pro 64-bit] [15.6" LED backlight LCD] [Logitech M305] 
Audio
[Nokia Mini-Speakers MD-8] 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
[Athlon II X2 215 3.4GHz @ 1.4V] [Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P (rev3.1)] [XFX 8600GT XXX 256MB GDDR3] [2x2GB G.skill Ripjaws-X 1333 7-7-7-20 @ 1.5V] 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
[500GB WD Blue] [LG 24X DVD-Writer] [Hyper TX3] [Windows 7 64-bit] 
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[ASUS VS197D-P 18.5"] [ONN 19" LCD HDTV] [Antec Basiq VP-450] [Cooler Master Elite 343] 
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Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
[256GB Samsung 840 Pro] [2x 3TB Green WD30EZRX JBOD] [Corsair H100i] [Windows 7 Pro 64-bit] 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
[23.6" Asus VE247H] [Razer BlackWidow] [Corsair HX850] [Corsair Carbide 500R White] 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
[Logitech G400] [SteelSeries QcK+] [SteelSeries Siberia V2 Headset] [Zalman ZM-MIC 1 Microphone] 
AudioAudioOtherOther
[Logitech X-540 5.1 Speaker] [Logitech S220 2.1 Speaker] [Bitfenix Recon Fan Controller] [TRENDnet TEW-684UB] 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
[AMD A6-3400M 2.35GHz @ 1.0875V] [AMD HD 6650M] [2x4GB Corsair Vengence 1333MHz 9-8-8-8 @ 1.5V] [500GB Seagate 5400rpm] 
Optical DriveOSMonitorMouse
[DVD Slimdrive] [Windows 8 Pro 64-bit] [15.6" LED backlight LCD] [Logitech M305] 
Audio
[Nokia Mini-Speakers MD-8] 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
[Athlon II X2 215 3.4GHz @ 1.4V] [Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P (rev3.1)] [XFX 8600GT XXX 256MB GDDR3] [2x2GB G.skill Ripjaws-X 1333 7-7-7-20 @ 1.5V] 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
[500GB WD Blue] [LG 24X DVD-Writer] [Hyper TX3] [Windows 7 64-bit] 
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post #29 of 111
If your looking at 570's, you should just get a 560 Ti
save some money, and the card is just as good, without the history of failures! Go with the MSI 560 Ti

For your motherboard, really, stick to the Asus board, you won't regret it!

That Corsair PSU is a good choice!
For Memory, just find some DDR3-1600, that runs on 1.5 volts
Don't read to much into the timings, you will notice nothing in the way of speed!

MX-4...Big thumbs up!

If you can, You should look at getting a Thermalright VenomousX Black! One of the best cpu coolers on the market!
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Intel 510 250Gb SSD WD RE4 250Gb x 4 Raid-0 Plextor DVR 880SA VenomousX 
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post #30 of 111
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Originally Posted by Infinite Jest View Post
In ascending order (low to high) these are the GTX 570 cards that newegg carry. THe top few either drop below or get close to dropping below $300. How do I tell if they are reference?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...CE&PageSize=20
I'm no expert on 570s but i believe that the ones that look like this one are based on the reference design.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-130-_-Product
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Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
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