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I've seen some supposedly 'leaked benchmarks' and they show that only the top end Bulldozer 6 core will be on par (just about) with the 2600k
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I've seen some supposedly 'leaked benchmarks' and they show that only the top end Bulldozer 6 core will be on par (just about) with the 2600k
What about the top 8 core?

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If this is the case, I'd say definitely go for it. My thinking is, let's just say Bulldozer is going to be better than Sandy Bridge. How much better do you think it'll be?
An evil person might buy the Sandy Bridge from newegg and keep everything in good shape, then when bulldozer comes out a week later the evil person can return the Sandy Bridge for being defective (defective = not as fast as bulldozer).
    
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I don't know about making the jump, you really need to have a legitimate reason. You really won't notice much of a difference in gaming except for Blizzard games (WoW and SC2 get 30+FPS just by switching) and a few other exceptions, but at 1920x1080 your videocard is doing a lot of the work. If you're encoding or doing other CPU intensive tasks, yes, a 2600K and a Z68 motherboard is definitely a worthy upgrade.

Honestly, if you're just gaming, wait for Ivy Bridge and/or Bulldozer. Dropping $500 a month or two before a new platforms release (Bulldozer) will just give you buyer's remorse if Bulldozer is better, whereas it's not like you're dying for power right now running a 965BE and a 6970. Unless you do said CPU intensive tasks. Then get a 2600K for sure.

If you were building a new computer from the ground up, 2600K.
If you were doing a lot of encoding, 2600K.
If money is no object right now and won't be in the near future and you need a bigger e-peen, 2600K.

If you're having low FPS on one game and that's all, turn down the settings and wait a month.

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I've seen some supposedly 'leaked benchmarks' and they show that only the top end Bulldozer 6 core will be on par (just about) with the 2600k
Good, because the leaked pricing is $100 less than the 2600K. Rumors are rumors, and you can twist them anyway you want. Stay objective about computer parts and you will always have the best rig for yourself at that point in time. I know my 965 gets slapped around in benches, but a $500 is a lot to swallow when all I do is game.
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If you head over to the video game news section in the witcher 2 benchmark thread you can see that the i7 920 underclocked to 2Ghz is actually faster than a phenom II X6 @ 3.3Ghz. Keep in mind this is with a GTX590 so with a slower card the bottleneck and difference between the CPU's will be reduced. The new sandy bridge chips are a bit faster than the older i7's clock for clock and overclock a hell of a lot higher.

IMO anyone with a card faster than a GTX460 1GB or an HD6850 shouldn't be running a phenom II chip.
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If you head over to the video game news section in the witcher 2 benchmark thread you can see that the i7 920 underclocked to 2Ghz is actually faster than a phenom II X6 @ 3.3Ghz. Keep in mind this is with a GTX590 so with a slower card the bottleneck and difference between the CPU's will be reduced. The new sandy bridge chips are a bit faster than the older i7's clock for clock and overclock a hell of a lot higher.

IMO anyone with a card faster than a GTX460 1GB or an HD6850 shouldn't be running a phenom II chip.
Really? Because the majority of games don't care what processor you're using as long as it has 2 threads and a good clockspeed, regardless of resolution:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...X4_970/10.html

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpu...4-970-review/6

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha...pii_970/8.html

Looks like as long as you have the GPU power, your CPU isn't much of a factor (except in specific games). People really need to understand that making a $500 upgrade to your computer for one game is silly.
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What about the top 8 core?



An evil person might buy the Sandy Bridge from newegg and keep everything in good shape, then when bulldozer comes out a week later the evil person can return the Sandy Bridge for being defective (defective = not as fast as bulldozer).
I lol'd. But I'd actually do this rofl
    
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You will notice big performance jump in every application. I have PII X4 920 on my second computer and my i7 920 is much faster even with stock settings.
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I don't know about making the jump, you really need to have a legitimate reason. You really won't notice much of a difference in gaming except for Blizzard games (WoW and SC2 get 30+FPS just by switching)
I don't even play those games. I had the Phenom II 965 and upgraded to the i7 2600. Huge difference. In everything. Encodes faster. Opens applications faster. Multitasks far better. Runs cooler. Higher frame rates on demanding games.

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You will notice big performance jump in every application. I have PII X4 920 on my second computer and my i7 920 is much faster even with stock settings.
Correct.
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A HUGE jump in performance.
Would OP really? If a game is CPU bound then yes definitely, but for most games its the GPu that counts and I dont think his current CPU will be holding it back much.

For everything else it will be a huge improvement.
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Thanks for the replies guys. my CPU isn't bottlenecking me per say just because I'm at 100% cpu usage every time in game, however a faster CPU is a faster CPU. that being said a lot of people in this thread have convinced me to wait, I will probably just get a second 6970 first.
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