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Still waiting for this bubble to pop.
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I'm not a big fan of apple products, because apple's design philosophy doesn't work well for me. They cater to people who want to plug in, power on, and go, without tweaking, configuring, customizing, etc. I'm a geek, and I like to tweak my gizmos so that they are customized for me. I like playing with settings, changing options, overclocking, changing out LEDs, and generally messing with stuff. Apple spends ridiculous amounts of money getting rid of these options. They design products that just about anyone can pick up and use intuitively, with little to no configuration required.

With that said, I do see why Apple has such a large market cap. Between the ease of use, reliability, and insanely good PR, it's really no surprise. I'm actually surprised they aren't going the MS route and buying everyone else out.
THIS!

I am no Apple Fanboi either, but I have to admit, they do have a mind for the regular consumer. I have been using windows for 10 years, just 6 months ago, I got a MacBook Pro from my friend. Immediately I noticed the simplicity of it. I felt like I was trapped inside this little box with almost no settings to change or anything. I didn't like that feeling, but it did work great for internet, Word documents, and PowerPoints(what most mainstream consumers do).

I have a iPhone 4, and I had that same feeling of now being able to customize it, make it mine. So I jailbroke it, I love it more than my EVO, Droid, Blackberry, anything... I wish Apple would appeal to that last small percent of us who like to tinker and mess with stuff. I like that feeling of being able to say "I built that PC"
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Bill still has major market share in MS though right?
No he doesn't have major market sharei n Microsoft. There is no such thing as market share in a company.

If you mean stocks, no he owns perhaps 700 million stocks since 2009. Probably less by now.
That's approximately 7%. (Out of like 10 billion~)
Even if he owned more and was the majority stock holder, he's far too busy to be dropping by meetings to discuss plans for Microsoft. And if he wasn't too busy, he'd obviously be CEO.

I am sure Ballmer would volunteer to be the red carpet to welcome him back to Microsoft.
Edited by AsAnAtheist - 6/4/11 at 2:46pm
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post #24 of 91
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Immediately I noticed the simplicity of it. I felt like I was trapped inside this little box with almost no settings to change or anything. I didn't like that feeling, but it did work great for internet, Word documents, and PowerPoints(what most mainstream consumers do).
And that is the direction the computing world is heading in - simplicity. The days of complicated OS's and hardware are quickly coming to an end. This doesn't mean PC's and Macs will be any less capable or useful either.

These economic threads are pointless. No one here really knows what these numbers mean. More importantly, they're meaningless to consumers. I'm a Mac user and I couldn't care less about market value.
 
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post #25 of 91
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oh that's right, the xbox, zune, win mobile, peripherals, etc. Were charitable ventures.

I don't think it's a terribly meaningful comparison in the article, but at least make a valid point.

Edit: Check the temperature in hell. I think i just indirectly defended apple.
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post #26 of 91
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No he doesn't have major market sharei n Microsoft. There is no such thing as market share in a company.

If you mean stocks, no he owns perhaps 700 million stocks since 2009. Probably less by now.
That's approximately 7%. (Out of like 10 billion~)
Even if he owned more and was the majority stock holder, he's far too busy to be dropping by meetings to discuss plans for Microsoft. And if he wasn't too busy, he'd obviously be CEO.

I am sure Ballmer would volunteer to be the red carpet to welcome him back to Microsoft.
Arh yes, major share holder*
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post #27 of 91
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And that is the direction the computing world is heading in - simplicity. The days of complicated OS's and hardware are quickly coming to an end. This doesn't mean PC's and Macs will be any less capable or useful.

These economic threads are pointless. No one here really knows what these numbers mean. More importantly, they're meaningless to consumers. I'm a Mac user and I couldn't care less about market value.
Really? This is kind of a dumb statement. The PC world is NOT heading to simplicity. It's been heading to complexity from day 1. Why do you think hardware requirements have been going UP insteads of DOWN?
I will put examples for many things.

Facebook has grown, and so has the number of apps and things you can do on facebook. This is complexity, not simplicity.

Internet Explorer, Firefox, Chrome have all increase the amounts of things you can customize, add-on, and even add apps.

API's become more complicated, and allow for more complexity as they grow and update. DX9-DX11, Open GL

Youtube has categories, and is adding more and more different types of content. From music, to homemade videos, and tv shows and more. They have also added many different ways to express opinion on videos by adding ratings, comments, and no "Wow" "like" "epic" buttons.
They are still expanding.

Computers get more and more features. USB 3.0 Firewire Thunderbolt (as soon as it's available) E-Sata, and more. IPS panels, TN panels, LED backlighting, RGB LED. Backlit Keyboards, Multicolor backlit keyboards, Black, blue, red, white. Aluminum, magnesium alloy, thermoplastics, both. Wireless displays, ultraportables mixed with tablet, and more.


Sorry but the list of things is growing not decreasing, not minimizing into just one object.
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post #28 of 91
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Wait what?
You don't compare Apple to Microsoft. You compare it to HP, Dell, Acer, Asus, and other companies.

Microsoft =/= PC manufacturer.
Microsoft =/= Major Electronics manufacturer

Yes they have a few product lines, however they are far from being the major revenue source. In fact it's the minority. The major revenue source for microsoft is software, and support (corporate).
Apples major Revenue is from hardware, specifically the Iphone 4, Ipod, etc.

Apple doesn't suck, it's fans who overhype crap and talk out of ignorance do.
Yeah sure, so I don't see why you quoted my post. (For the OSX VS Windows comparison? I don't think it's irrelevant).

Yes fanboys suck... for every brand. We got nice AMD/Intel/Nvidia fanboys here as well but these brands don't get bashed because of them. Same for Apple, we shouldn't judge it on its fans (I'm not telling that to you in particular).

And I agree with you noak. Jailbreak is a very appropriate name for the iPhone hacking. The original iOS is like a golden cage. Looks great, very comfortable, but still a cage. Jailbreaking opens the door to that cage.

But no way Apple will let us do as we want with our devices. "Think different" sometimes turn into "think alike". Once again that's where jailbreaking comes in ^^.
post #29 of 91
Steve is one hell of a CEO.

No matter what people think of him and his practices.
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Truth.
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