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Well I see everyone talking about privacy in browsers and such, what about the operating systems we work with every day?

Especially the closed source ones like Windows and Mac OS X, how do we know they aren't gathering data all over the OS?

And please guys, try to keep it civil. I didn't create this thread to flame on anything, I just wanted to learn more. Even though I will say that I do prefer Linux to other OSs, but that is not the matter here.
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Originally Posted by KaiZ51 View Post
Well I see everyone talking about privacy in browsers and such, what about the operating systems we work with every day?

Especially the closed source ones like Windows and Mac OS X, how do we know they aren't gathering data all over the OS?

And please guys, try to keep it civil. I didn't create this thread to flame on anything, I just wanted to learn more. Even though I will say that I do prefer Linux to other OSs, but that is not the matter here.
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http://www.symantec.com/content/en/u...et_dossier.pdf
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redhat ftw
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Well I see everyone talking about privacy in browsers and such, what about the operating systems we work with every day?

Especially the closed source ones like Windows and Mac OS X, how do we know they aren't gathering data all over the OS?
AFAIK, the only way to tell if a closed source OS is gathering and transmitting data on you is to monitor your outgoing web traffic.

Without the source code, you can never be certain.
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Wow Spoony, thats only a 69 page document. XD

Thinking back to a discussion with a friend of mine, apparently someone was arrested for viewing a CP video on his computer. Granted, that is more likely to do with the fact that he used WMP rather than the fact that he used Windows.
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Thinking back to a discussion with a friend of mine, apparently someone was arrested for viewing a CP video on his computer. Granted, that is more likely to do with the fact that he used WMP rather than the fact that he used Windows.
I reallllly doubt it was from using a program to view it. Trying not to sound weird, but detecting the difference between regular and illegal is probably really really hard. It was most likely from networked-related reasons.

On topic, I think they are fairly secure vanilla with the default code. But that is just my opinion.
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Appoligies for double post
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Wow Spoony, thats only a 69 page document. XD
69 PAGE document for one piece of malware that is.

What about the hidden channel in the P2P protocol? People who created bitthief created it to show everyone about it yet torrent users are more peed off at it coz it just download and doesn't share but its using it thru a channel where you can be monitored by any authority without anyone noticing it lol.
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There's an App called "Little Snitch" for OS X. It will alert you to any NEW outgoing connections from services and applications. You can either allow or deny those connections.

It's a very handy tool, and I have no idea why no one has done it for Windows yet.

I can tell you from years of experience (with the OS itself and with Little Snitch installed), OS X does not communicate to Apple for any reason unless you're looking for updates, or you have your clock set to check Apple.com for the time.
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There's an App called "Little Snitch" for OS X. It will alert you to any NEW outgoing connections from services and applications. You can either allow or deny those connections.
Sounds like a very basic firewall. All "addresses" are "gray" and must be designated as safe or unsafe by the user. There are many similar solutions for Linux, Windows, etc.

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I reallllly doubt it was from using a program to view it. Trying not to sound weird, but detecting the difference between regular and illegal is probably really really hard. It was most likely from networked-related reasons.

On topic, I think they are fairly secure vanilla with the default code. But that is just my opinion.
Nay. It was for viewing it in Windows Media Player. And yes, they CAN tell the difference. Remember, this is Microsoft were talking about - they are more than capable of this. Google PhotoDNA if you'd like to see one of their related projects.

While Im all for hammering down on CP and similarly nasty material out there, the fact that M$ got involved is worrying to me. Windows 7 makes countless records and backup records of every little action you do on your computer. Not to sound all paranoid, I dont think theyre trying to collect information as of yet... however, that doesn't mean they won't in the future. Sandy Bridge is able to connect via 3G in order to send or receive information in an "emergency situation" should the internet be otherwise disabled. Somewhat worrying for folks like moi.
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