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post #1 of 12
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Radeon has consistently been at the bottom for folding for the last couple years.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/gra...-for-folding/4

That's seriously lopsided. Why are they lagging so much?
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they dont care about folding,,, i mean.......... is this a serious question?
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Nope

NV won't allow it.

Even with the new client, AMD is still pitifully behind.

I don't care what anyone says, when CS:S puts more of a workload than FAH, somethings wrong.
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Not going to happen any time soon, sorry.

Also that graph looks off for ATI, doesn't look like they tested with the new core.
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post #5 of 12
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Originally Posted by Jzkillzone23 View Post
they dont care about folding,,, i mean.......... is this a serious question?
Yes it is. Does ATI care about folding? I'm guessing not. My question is "Why don't they?" That's a serious gap in performance.
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Originally Posted by Jzkillzone23 View Post
they dont care about folding,,, i mean.......... is this a serious question?
Sure they do and folding is significant, but these are graphics cards. Their main goal will be to improve the experience of gamers and such. Can you imagine that on the box? "Radeon HD ****, capable of ** PPD!"
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Can you imagine that on the box? "Radeon HD ****, capable of ** PPD!"
As a folder? Yes (stats are paramount). But we are not typical buyers. Tis more the shame.
post #8 of 12
It isn't AMD not caring or even their problem. It is the folding client itself not being optimized for Stream but is for Cuda, or much less optimized at least. Rest assured, if they would take the time to make a AMD only, or heavily favored client, we would be seeing the same lopsided graph, only the brands reversed. AMD's chips have the hardware capability to equal and most likely surpass Nvidia in folding(at least when comparing the 5xxx to 4xx in DP performance. Not sure on 6xxx vs. 5xx), the software is what is lacking.
Edited by Strat79 - 6/4/11 at 11:07pm
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It isn't AMD not caring or even their problem. It is the folding client itself not being optimized for Stream but is for Cuda, or much less optimized at least. Rest assured, if they would take the time to make a AMD only, or heavily favored client, we would be seeing the same lopsided graph, only the brands reversed. AMD's chips have the hardware capability to equal and most likely surpass Nvidia in folding(at least when comparing the 5xxx to 4xx in DP performance. Not sure on 6xxx vs. 5xx), the software is what is lacking.
QFT ^

Has nothing to do with the cards and or AMD themselves. It's the software optimization.
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Yes it is. Does ATI care about folding? I'm guessing not. My question is "Why don't they?" That's a serious gap in performance.
AMD canceled something (Brook, I think it was?), so the client had to be rewritten for OpenCL, if I'm not mistaken.

A rewritten program takes time to perfect
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