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SSD with sata 3 pci controller card??

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hey guys i have the GA X58A-UD3R (Rev 2) and i wanted to purchase a Corsair Force 3 Series but my motherboard won't get full speeds on sata 3 on the marvell port so what if i purchase a pci sata 3 controller card..will this work in order to get full speeds?

Thank You, Alex
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It might work to get slightly better sequential speeds but overall I believe the difference won't be noticeable in the real life. Plus, depending on which controller you gonna buy, you might lose TRIM (only in Windows 7). There is also no TRIM on Marvell controller. So what I would suggest, use native Intel SATA II controller with the latest Intel drivers - Intel® Rapid Storage Technology.

Make sure you are in AHCI mode in BIOS as well.
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Thanks for your time m8 i really appreciate it!
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post #4 of 10
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Originally Posted by XSCounter;13757841 
It might work to get slightly better sequential speeds but overall I believe the difference won't be noticeable in the real life. Plus, depending on which controller you gonna buy, you might lose TRIM (only in Windows 7). There is also no TRIM on Marvell controller. So what I would suggest, use native Intel SATA II controller with the latest Intel drivers - Intel® Rapid Storage Technology.

Make sure you are in AHCI mode in BIOS as well.

I'm configured for raid and Trim is still enabled on my setup.

Also I was sort of debating this but I decided to just buy an Intel 510 and will use it with the X58 until I pick up a Sandybridge setup.
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Originally Posted by Silviastud;13765942 
I'm configured for raid and Trim is still enabled on my setup.

It is enabled in Windows 7 yes, but the controller is not passing TRIM commands to SSD. So it's not actually working.
post #6 of 10
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Originally Posted by XSCounter;13768660 
It is enabled in Windows 7 yes, but the controller is not passing TRIM commands to SSD. So it's not actually working.

Understood, too bad there is no way to see this, other than taking whoever's word that it doesn't pass the commands.
post #7 of 10
Marvell don't do TRIM on their drivers...
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Crucial C300 on an Asus U3S6 pci-e card

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Originally Posted by XSCounter;13768660 
It is enabled in Windows 7 yes, but the controller is not passing TRIM commands to SSD. So it's not actually working.

So after spending all night redoing my raid to the Gigabyte Ports and putting my Intel ports to AHCI for TRIM I found this:

The Thread

But here is the quote:

Quote:

The latest: Intel® RST 9.6 will be released this week which includes TRIM support for SSDs. It will support TRIM with SSDs in an AHCI configuration, or with the RAID controller enabled and the SSD is used as a pass through device. An example of this use case is for users that want to use the SSD as a boot drive but still be able to RAID multiple HDDs together to allow for large protect data storage – a great use for the home theater PC. TRIM support for SSDs in a RAID configuration is under investigation and is not included in Intel® RST 9.6.

Translation: if your Intel storage controller is set to RAID mode, you'll now be able to benefit from your solid-state drive's TRIM functionality when running it alongside a RAID array comprised of mechanical drives. TRIM isn't supported for SSDs participating in a RAID array, however. Intel may add that feature in the future, but it hasn't committed to doing so.

Thanks Pings and DannyM for making me researching it further.

To summarize (assuming that your SSD is TRIM-Capable):
SSD + ACHI Mode + Windows 7 Driver = TRIM
SSD + ACHI Mode + Intel Driver = TRIM
SSD + ACHI Mode + NVIDIA/AMD/VIA Driver = No TRIM
SSD + RAID Mode + Non-Intel Driver = No TRIM
SSD + RAID Mode + Intel Driver = TRIM
SSD RAID = No TRIM


This driver update is really important only if you have individual SSDs and RAID of HDDs.

Which was exactly what I was doing... So did I not undo everything for nothing...
post #10 of 10
Yes, that is what I meant precisely. No TRIM in RAID array and on Marvell controller. I think I now realized that I had confused you when I said that it doesn't pass TRIM commands. I thought that you have RAID array of SSDs. Sorry about that. I myself have my controller in RAID mode, although I don't even have RAID arrays and I am certain that my SSD's TRIM is working.
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