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I have a few questions, this is the first time I'll try to water cool something in my computer.

So... er.. here goes:

1. I have the Gigabyte 560 Ti, specifically the GV-N560SO-1GI-950. It came with a custom cooler, so my first question would be: would a normal 560 Ti water block work normally on the card? If I'm not mistaken -probably am- all the custom cards (EVGA, Gigabyte, Asus... ect) just have custom fans on and they use the reference card design, so the card should be like a stock 560 Ti card once you take off the fan, right?

2. Is there a full cover water block for the 560 Ti? Or would I have to use a small one that just goes over the GPU processor? (Side note: Is there a name for GPU CPU's?)

3. If I ever end up doing this, how much of a impact would having water go over the CPU then GPU have? I'm thinking of either doing CPU -- GPU or to just make a small loop that just goes to the GPU and keep my current heatsink on my CPU. What one would be better?

4. Are there any decent water cooled PSU's? If not, what PSU's do you recommend? My current one is... well.. crap. It gets unbelievably hot.

And finally 5. What cases do you recommend for water cooling? I'm thinking of getting a case with a window, but then again that space where the window goes could be used to put a radiator on... But if you put the radiator on, you couldn't really open the computer

So, what windowless/windowed cases are good for water cooling? And would it be better to put the radiator on the top of the case, side, back or front? I'd have said side, back or front since warm air rises and it would just go back into the radiator. Does anybody have some annotated pictures of their water cooled rigs I could look at?

Thanks for the help
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ur right and wrong.
1. Ur gigabyte is SUPEROVERCLOCK, it is non reference PCB. So a normal full 560 blcok will not work. (the cpu of the gpu is GPU . There is the card/memory chips/voltage regulators/gpu)
2.There are 2 types either full blcoks from many companies Ek and others. And there is the önly gpu"block that will cover only the gpu, mcw80 for example.
3.Depends on your setup as a whole, plz fill ur specs here http://www.overclock.net/specs.php?do=addsystem
Full blocks usually give much better results since they cool ur mem and vrm, but u can expect between 50-70mhz on the core +-.
4.Any qulity psus from corsair, seasonic, nzxt, silverstone,xfx..etc
5. cosrair cases are great for water. Coolermaster cases are great for air.
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Thanks, I've filled in my system specs.

I'll probably get a Corsair case and figure the rest out as I go along.
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1. First, as it has been said, no, your gtx 560 is not a reference design card. A smart way to find out that a fellow OCNer pointed out is to look right above the PCI-e connecter on the card. If it says "Nvidia" its reference, it not well, then its not a ref. card. I dont know if some full cover blocks would fit. I know EK has made a full cover block for non ref. GTX 580's but I dont know about GTX 560.

2. See above answer, or check the OCN Water Cooling Club, a lot of knowledge to be found there.

3. Honestly I dont see much point in water cooling a GTX 560 Ti. Most of them can reach their full potential on air, especially a good one like yours. They're really efficient little cards that dont get that hot. Water cooling your CPU ? Well you might see some performance gains in games if you could get it to around 3.5 GHz. Dont know how good of a overclocker that CPU is and if its worth it, since its somewhat old. But if I were you, I would WC my CPU before GPU, if you absolutely want to watercool. Also Id say, either get a good Air Cooler or wait untill you have money for a real beastly machine for WCing.

4. Watercooling a PSU is completely overkill and would be strictly for showing off. But some good quality PSU can be found in this thread. My system is more power hungry than yours and powered by a good 550W PSU. So unless you want a PSU that you can keep when upgrading to a new machine, just get a ~600W and youre more than set.

5. Cases for Watercooling. The one I have is pretty decent, room for two 120.2 (meaning 120cm wide and 2 slots long) rads, and it can be had with a window. Corsair 800D is a popular choice but a lot more expensive. The Fulltower Cooler Master HAF series are very roomy too. But that is only if you must have the rads installed internally. You can get a smaller case and mount them externally, mounting brackets always come included with rads as far as I know. It just makes is harder to move around and looks stupid IMO . And yes, it would not be ideal to mount a rad in the sides of the case.
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Ah, thanks.
Time to save up =D
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There is little point in water cooling a 560 imo. Most of them max out before it is needed.

However, you can still drop temps on just the gpu quite a bit with a "gpu only block". Also keep in mind though that your ram/vrm's will still need to be cooled somehow.
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How would you cool the ram? Would passive heatsinks be enough?
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Considering what Behemoth777 stated about the GTX 560 tapping out before heat becomes an issue you wouldn't need to worry about either passivly or activly cooling your Vram.

However, If you are after the 1ghz mark and you want your card to stay alive for a few years I would recommend the following areas to have your full attention.

1) GPU cooled by a GPU only block. A Danger Den Maze 4 & 5 are direct bolt on blocks. Swiftech also has an adapater for their MCW82. Swiftech also offter a GTX560-TI Heatsink if your card is in the list of compatable cards.

2) VRM cooled by either stick on heat sinks or a custom made unit that would bolt to the PCB made from a CPU heatsink or milled up from a peice of copper. You don't need a fan blowing over your VRM as long as your case has intake fans that blow right onto your cards PCB and isn't obstructed.

3) Vram... This is a touched subject, some say ramsinks some say leave them alone. But, most agree that cooling the ram doesn't net anything since you can't overvolt the ram and since Nvidia specs don't call for ram cooling their thermal design is built to handle what they can run at. But, if you plan to overclock your memory (You'll only get a few FPS more by doing this, like 2-4FPS) then stick some heatsinks on them.


Personally, I would just go with focusing my efforst on cooling the GPU and the VRM. Because, once in your system you'll be overclocking your GPU and in return your VRM will heat up more than it would be at stock.

1ghz seems to be the goal with a GTX 560 of any flavor, so once you acheive that then it will only be about how cool you can run it at 1ghz.

And remember, this is a budget card, so spending anything close to half of what the card cost is NOT a wise choice.


And for the record full face blocks are nice as a one purchase, minimum screwing around with solution to cool the entire card. But, when the blocks that are out are expensive.

Heatkiller GTX 560 full face: $104.95
Danger Den GTX 560 full face: $99.95

RECOMMENDED: Danger Den Maze 5: $48.99


Hope this helps,

Good Luck!
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lian li cases rock for water cooling if you are willing to cut holes and get your hands durty.
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