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the stability of the OC has nothin to do with it.
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the stability of the OC has nothin to do with it.
Do you have any proof of that or just personal opinion?

I could be wrong but a common pattern with people who don't experience the boot-loop is that their BIOS has never experienced any sort of instability due to overclocking. I've seen this first hand too. It has been two weeks since I did a fresh flash and not a single boot-loop since. (Keep in mind it was happening every single time before that too) The only thing that changed is my current BIOS flash has never seen any sort of instability caused by failed overclocking. (e.g. BSOD in Prime95)
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i have tested it, even with my stable OCs. if OC causes teh boot loop then its not a problem as you gotta clear cmos anyways when your OC fails.
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i have tested it, even with my stable OCs. if OC causes teh boot loop then its not a problem as you gotta clear cmos anyways when your OC fails.
But what if it corrupts the BIOS itself? As I understand it, clearing the CMOS wouldn't repair damage done to the BIOS, it just resets all the settings.
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the stability of the OC has nothin to do with it.
I agree with this.

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But what if it corrupts the BIOS itself? As I understand it, clearing the CMOS wouldn't repair damage done to the BIOS, it just resets all the settings.
A corrupt BIOS can result from particular settings when attempting to OC. I've experience this a couple of times with the Nvidia mobos (650i Ultra & 790i Ultra).
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But what if it corrupts the BIOS itself? As I understand it, clearing the CMOS wouldn't repair damage done to the BIOS, it just resets all the settings.
well all you have to do to fix a boot lop is to clear the CMOS.

I have a feeling that 50% of these "cycling" boot loops are jut users OCing errors, too high of OC.

Then probably 25% are caused by restart buttons and the rest ppl with the problem./ Its not that big or else you'd see more than me posting every other post.
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well all you have to do to fix a boot lop is to clear the CMOS.

I have a feeling that 50% of these "cycling" boot loops are jut users OCing errors, too high of OC.

Then probably 25% are caused by restart buttons and the rest ppl with the problem./ Its not that big or else you'd see more than me posting every other post.
Problem is 2 systems I built for a client are not OC'ed systems and never will be. It has nothing to do with the board OCing or not.
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well all you have to do to fix a boot lop is to clear the CMOS.

I have a feeling that 50% of these "cycling" boot loops are jut users OCing errors, too high of OC.

Then probably 25% are caused by restart buttons and the rest ppl with the problem./ Its not that big or else you'd see more than me posting every other post.
I disagree. Clearing CMOS may temporarily fix it but the boot-loop will reappear shortly thereafter.

It seems like a lot of people are quick to dismiss my BIOS corruption theory but when they do they make assumptions yet supply no first-hand evidence to back up their assumptions.

Sin0822, I've got a lot of respect for you. Your reviews are great. But I respectfully disagree with you here. I'm not saying I'm 100% right in my BIOS corruption theory, but as of right now it appears to be the only possible explanation for whats causing the boot-loop bug.

Also, this board is very new and yet a simple Google search results in a bunch of people complaining about the boot-loop. In all of these cases they all share at least one thing in common:
  • Reset switch is used.

    and/or

  • They overclocked and experienced instability at one point in time.

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Problem is 2 systems I built for a client are not OC'ed systems and never will be. It has nothing to do with the board OCing or not.
Was the reset switch used at any point?
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yes, the common link is that they OC, but the BIOS corruption threshold is set so low, that the backup BIOS would flash over quickly, like it did on the easily P67 boards.

To backup your theory then, reflashing the main BIOS helps.

Also what about when the backup and the main BIOS are the same, boot loops become much less common then.

I think the problem with the boot loops is more a problem where the fail-safe OC recovery fails to work, as many know on GB boards, after you OC or change vital BIOS settings, the system checks itself a minimum 3 times. If you have a POST CODE card or a TPM or a UD7 you have a POST CODE display. now when the BIOS checks itself it goes to the code C1 over and over and then goes to C3 all the way up to FF which is fully functional. When these boot loops happen, the POST code display shows nothing at all, its just blank it tried to light up but it doesn't even get to check itself. I think that is caused by the OC recovery not starting up.

If your theory is correct, then just re-flashing the BIOS will fix the corruption. If it did then thatd be great, but it doesn't seem to work that way.
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That one thing about gigabyte that I love. I got corrupt bios and on reboot it said something like this bios corrupt starting recover and flash it self from back up bios.

This was on My bios on p-35-ds4 rev 2.0 and I found out later i had bad ram.

When it happen I was so scared that it would not work but it did.
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