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Hi guys, I have the z68x-ud3h and have the same boot loop problem only when i overclock the 2500k where it starts to cycle and reverts back to default clocks. I've reflashed the main bios to f4 from f2 with no improvement. My questions are:

Would it be safe to use a beta bios i.e. F4a, F4b? Alternatively, is it possible to use the another gigabyte boards bios (i.e. ud4 f7 bios)?

Afaik, the backup bios is still f2, How does one flash the backup bios?


Thanks in advance
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All boards use G.Skill 4GB DDR3 1333. I have a spare set Corsair XMS3 4GB DDR3 1333 for troubleshooting purposes.
Neither of those memory is not part of the QVL list for the P67-UD3R{B3 & non-B3} & Z68XP-UD4. You might want to recheck that memory support list on the Gigabyte site cuz I did not see them listed.

This is your response from post #149
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No, it's not RAM related. I tired using two different manufacturers on Gigabyte's QVL and nothing worked. Still boot looping.
Regarding to all the mobos you've listed on post #217, there can possibly be a memory compatible issue
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try a hard clear of the CMOS, pull the 24 pin out, and then pull the battery out, and then short the battery pins to discharge the capacitors and then clear the CMOS.

Did you try re-flashing the BIOS, b/c here is my question, i don't see people with the boot loops when they are at stock everything. If it was that huge of an issues on all those boards you posted, GB wouldn't be selling any boards. IDk you are getting to so often with so many board, it must be your settings somewhere.

BTW do you make sure to after EVERy BIOS FLASH, to load optimized defaults, save and restart and then change things? B/C there have been very weird problems when ppl do not do that.
I've done all that.

Honestly, it's not worth the effort for anyone to go through such a hassle to get their mobo to work. Builders should be able to just buy a mobo put everything together and boot.

Troubleshooting Gigabyte's mobos is not my job, I don't get paid for troubleshooting Gigabyte's problems. If anyone has to go through such lengths for any brand motherboard to work, then obviously that brand has serious issues.

I brought this issue to attention to see if there was a simple and easy fix/work around, and obviously there is not. I'm going to leave it at that. For the P67/Z68 series, Gigabyte is not worth my time. I don't want to gamble with my client's money and time hoping I'll get a full functioning Gigabyte board.

I'll see how they do with Bulldozer and IvyBridge.

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Neither of those memory is not part of the QVL list for the P67-UD3R{B3 & non-B3} & Z68XP-UD4. You might want to recheck that memory support list on the Gigabyte site cuz I did not see them listed.

This is your response from post #149


Regarding to all the mobos you've listed on post #217, there can possibly be a memory compatible issue
I have the list.

Nor does the list say the memory I used is incompatible. In general the most inexpensive memory are the ones most compatible since cheap memory are the most often used.

Maybe you missed this part:

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I have also built two budget builds using H67MA-USB3-B3 which also exhibited the boot loop problem but after a BIOS update (flashing new BIOS to backup BIOS) the problem "seemed" to have gone away.


So obviously it's not a memory (G.Skill) compatibility issue.
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Did you try raising the vdimm at all? Seen quite a few people who have the 1.5V rated memory that needs more than 1.5V to run it's rated speed/timings.
Not too many people are having the boot loop issues, just seems strange that you have it with that many boards...
    
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Hi guys, I have the z68x-ud3h and have the same boot loop problem only when i overclock the 2500k where it starts to cycle and reverts back to default clocks. I've reflashed the main bios to f4 from f2 with no improvement. My questions are:

Would it be safe to use a beta bios i.e. F4a, F4b? Alternatively, is it possible to use the another gigabyte boards bios (i.e. ud4 f7 bios)?

Afaik, the backup bios is still f2, How does one flash the backup bios?


Thanks in advance
What you described is just bad OC settings, that is not a boot loop if it loads defaults, that is OC recovery. Keep the most recent BIOS and read up on OCing, or read a guide.

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I've done all that.

Honestly, it's not worth the effort for anyone to go through such a hassle to get their mobo to work. Builders should be able to just buy a mobo put everything together and boot.

Troubleshooting Gigabyte's mobos is not my job, I don't get paid for troubleshooting Gigabyte's problems. If anyone has to go through such lengths for any brand motherboard to work, then obviously that brand has serious issues.

I brought this issue to attention to see if there was a simple and easy fix/work around, and obviously there is not. I'm going to leave it at that. For the P67/Z68 series, Gigabyte is not worth my time. I don't want to gamble with my client's money and time hoping I'll get a full functioning Gigabyte board.
Also to be honest i really dont care what you do, there are too many inconsistencies as well as the fact that other ppl have no boot loop issues when they dont try to OC. I honestly dont care what you do, sell them for what I care. I don't represent GB, and I honestly wish you luck.

BTW if GB really had all these problems then they wouldn't sell any boards if every board had these problems.
I have to admit boot loops do arise 90% of the time while I set settings I know not to be stable.
Why disable the splash screen? for a customers rig? i leave that on b/c its better than looking at POST.


People its not a boot loop if it stops looping, that is OC recovery.
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I have the list.

Nor does the list say the memory I used is incompatible. In general the most inexpensive memory are the ones most compatible since cheap memory are the most often used.



So obviously it's not a memory (G.Skill) compatibility issue.
That so-called list is memory for the P67-DS3 mobo. Every Gigabyte mobo has their own individual memory support list...every single 1 of them and you actually had the nerve to be sarcastic about it

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BTW if GB really had all these problems then they wouldn't sell any boards if every board had these problems.

People its not a boot loop if it stops looping, that is OC recovery.
Yup! I definitely feel the same way...100% and you're absolutely right about how Gigabyte would handle this

This thread got me so ...can't focus on this... anymore ...
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Isn't it a problem if motherboard loops for 3-5 cycles and does NOT change any settings?
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no that is not a problem, that is the POST test checking to make sure your OC is stable enough to finish POST. Its a good feature IMO, tells you if its stable enough, or if you really messed something up it will reset the settings.
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Did you try raising the vdimm at all? Seen quite a few people who have the 1.5V rated memory that needs more than 1.5V to run it's rated speed/timings.
Not too many people are having the boot loop issues, just seems strange that you have it with that many boards...
I don't understand either, maybe it's a bad omen.

P67/Z68 is the first time I have ever encountered problems with Gigabyte and Gigabyte has always been my #1 choice. If one brand doesn't work I switch to another brand, business as usual.

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BTW if GB really had all these problems then they wouldn't sell any boards if every board had these problems.
I have to admit boot loops do arise 90% of the time while I set settings I know not to be stable.
Why disable the splash screen? for a customers rig? i leave that on b/c its better than looking at POST.
I never said Gigabyte had problems with all their boards nor did I ever say all their P67/Z68 boards have problems, why are you so frustrated? It's not even your problem!

Besides, what I do with the boards do not concern you, since they are still within RMA period, I just wanted to figure out if there was a workaround during that time out of curiosity.

Splash screen was disabled at customers request. Do you think I care what you think looks better? Don't be so full of yourself.

I don't understand why you and drBlahMan are so worked up about this, you don't have Gigabyte tatooed on your penis, all I'm saying is it just doesn't work.

Geez, some people should go out and interact with real people more often...

I'm done with this thread.
Edited by AzO - 6/29/11 at 12:15pm
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What about the incorrect memory QVL I had called out?

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...all I'm saying is it just doesn't work.
I've always understood clearly but you should at least consider trying memory from the correct QVL.
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