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post #361 of 811
A. NOT manufacturer specific, period.
B. NOT ram specific, period.
C. DOESNT happen to everyone
D. got another explanation that isn't bad chipset engineering ?

Sure there are thousands of these things shipped by oem's that are designed
and more importantly LIMITED to do very limited sets of things and with very limited hardware, that doesn't mean its some other hardwares fault it means the chipset should have been better researched and engineered, no matter what you say the positive side is, there should never be a situation with multiple websites taking the brunt of 40 pages from MULTIPLE forums of peoples boards having hard lock reboot issues before post finishes, period.
post #362 of 811
I have the GA-Z68X-UD7-B3, I'm on bios F4.

My Pc started taking its time to shut down for some reason.

I have 4 1tb/2tb drives and 2 ssds. Sleep is enabled on the hds, I noticed if I spin them up before shutting down my pc will shut down instantly. Otherwise I may have to wait 5 odd minutes or it wont shut down at all!

The next thing is the boot up which a number of people have mentioned. I'll turn the pc on and it will take a couple of minutes as opposed to seconds to detect any drives on the quick post. After this it will then occasionally fail to find my first ssd! This prevents me from booting entirely. I have to keep turning the pc on and off and eventually it finds it.

Now I'm reluctant to update my bios because of problems mentioned here. Theres also the fact that I cannot find any release notes. Simply a "this feature has been added" on the download page.

Anyway, I paid alot for this board and I'm getting pretty ticked off I have problems already.
post #363 of 811
I just got the Gigabyte ga-z68xp-ud3-issd yesterday.
I ordered it with a i52500k and 16gb kit corsair vengeance.


I experienced the boot loop on the initial start up. Had I found this site and read it before ordering I would of passed on this config.

I like a few others in this thread need a stable machine. I didnt overclock it I did get into the bios when I installed a single stick of memory, furthest from cpu.

I thought initially bad memory but after reading this I know its something else. I also read that some people have had zero issues out of the gate. I decided to return the board and the memory to totally eliminate those being the issue.

I have found in my experience if something starts out as crap will probably stay crap.

I will be getting the same items as replacements and if they work super if not I as much as I want to stay with gigabyte I think I may try another manufacturer. I have had great success with gb in the past so here's to hoping I hit the jackpot on a stable board on this try.
post #364 of 811
Quote:
Originally Posted by Timberwolf;14601420 
I just got the Gigabyte ga-z68xp-ud3-issd yesterday.
I ordered it with a i52500k and 16gb kit corsair vengeance.


I experienced the boot loop on the initial start up. Had I found this site and read it before ordering I would of passed on this config.

I like a few others in this thread need a stable machine. I didnt overclock it I did get into the bios when I installed a single stick of memory, furthest from cpu.

I thought initially bad memory but after reading this I know its something else. I also read that some people have had zero issues out of the gate. I decided to return the board and the memory to totally eliminate those being the issue.

I have found in my experience if something starts out as crap will probably stay crap.

I will be getting the same items as replacements and if they work super if not I as much as I want to stay with gigabyte I think I may try another manufacturer. I have had great success with gb in the past so here's to hoping I hit the jackpot on a stable board on this try.


FYI I have been speaking to Gigabyte and Asus over the past few days and according to some reviews and information the Vengeance kits seem to be binned very very highly ie: no headroom and are NOT good kits, they appear to have some problems depending on which IC's you get actually running the voltage or speed as advertised.

FYI if you have a board that has a diagnostic LED on it like the asus deluxe or several others OR if you just want to try something, try removing your video card AND ram entirely and guess what, still infinite boot loop so if a manufacturer tries to stick some bs on you about a ram type kind voltage or video card type or pull all the stuff out of the slots guess what, thats not it, this chipset sucks, PERIOD there is no rhyme or reason its pure luck, if it WAS component based then two boards from two different manufacturers I have here I couldnt make infinite boot loop ANYTIME I want without a single component plugged in.


just FYI smile.gif
post #365 of 811
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Originally Posted by trust7;14577668 
A. NOT manufacturer specific, period.
B. NOT ram specific, period.
C. DOESNT happen to everyone
D. got another explanation that isn't bad chipset engineering ?

Sure there are thousands of these things shipped by oem's that are designed
and more importantly LIMITED to do very limited sets of things and with very limited hardware, that doesn't mean its some other hardwares fault it means the chipset should have been better researched and engineered, no matter what you say the positive side is, there should never be a situation with multiple websites taking the brunt of 40 pages from MULTIPLE forums of peoples boards having hard lock reboot issues before post finishes, period.

There is no way this is a chipset problem. If it was, it would be happening to every Brand of p67/z68 and it hasnt. There has been a small amount of instances of asus and/or other boards doing this, but the bulk has been gigabyte. Gigabyte has always had problems with there double bios boards.

Normally this is caused by some sort of fault in the main bios, so the the board then tries to load the backup bios. In some instances if the backup bios isnt of the same version as the main it will cause this reboot loop (which is fixable in this instance). Other instances occur when something fails in main bios and it loads backup bios, but the backup bios is corrupt, or has other problems. This will cause the infinite reboot loop which is not fixable unless you rma.

I have had this happen on several gigabyte boards, none of which were p67 or z68. Ive had this happen on a ga-p55-usb3, ga-x58-usb3, and a ga-p55-ud4p. The p55-usb3 had to be rma'd as well as the x58, and the p55-ud4p was fixed by me. However, after the rmas the boards have worked flawlessly.

If that does not indicate a problem linked to the mfg (in this case gigabyte), maybe you can explain what it is. Im not saying gigabyte is a bad company, as I love gigabyte boards. Im just saying this is a problem specifically linked to the mfg. As I said, Asus and MSI board have been known to have these problems too, just not as much as gigabyte. It seems as though they have gotten better. The gigabyte p55 boards were terrible with the reboot loop.
Edited by AliceInChains - 8/17/11 at 9:33pm
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Originally Posted by AliceInChains;14623627 
There is no way this is a chipset problem. If it was, it would be happening to every Brand of p67/z68 and it hasnt. There has been a small amount of instances of asus and/or other boards doing this, but the bulk has been gigabyte. Gigabyte has always had problems with there double bios boards.

Normally this is caused by some sort of fault in the main bios, so the the board then tries to load the backup bios. In some instances if the backup bios isnt of the same version as the main it will cause this reboot loop (which is fixable in this instance). Other instances occur when something fails in main bios and it loads backup bios, but the backup bios is corrupt, or has other problems. This will cause the infinite reboot loop which is not fixable unless you rma.

I have had this happen on several gigabyte boards, none of which were p67 or z68. Ive had this happen on a ga-p55-usb3, ga-x58-usb3, and a ga-p55-ud4p. The p55-usb3 had to be rma'd as well as the x58, and the p55-ud4p was fixed by me. However, after the rmas the boards have worked flawlessly.

If that does not indicate a problem linked to the mfg (in this case gigabyte), maybe you can explain what it is. Im not saying gigabyte is a bad company, as I love gigabyte boards. Im just saying this is a problem specifically linked to the mfg. As I said, Asus and MSI board have been known to have these problems too, just not as much as gigabyte. It seems as though they have gotten better. The gigabyte p55 boards were terrible with the reboot loop.



Well for one thing the 17 PERSONAL p67/z68 builds with just asus I have done that have all had it?

If you read my first and second posts I have built a little more than 30+ builds just for myself in dealing with this issue with MSI gigabyte Asus AsRock boards and everyone of them have one issue or another related something to this. Some of the issues for sure are memory compatibility, some are the uefi bios or bios' in general not working properly but seriously when you use the best of the best components in the world and you can't get a stable NON-OVERCLOCKED rig because of the motherboard you have to start looking NOT at the manufacturer and start asking questions of the implementation, it simply just can't be pointed at gigabyte or any one manufacturer. The fact that you state you have had problems with gigabyte NOT on p67/z68 is completely irrelevant, so have i, I Have with EVERY manufacturer in every chipset before this.

Ever hear of a 780i fiasco called evga, one of the best manufacturers as far as warranty and support is concerned hands down IMO but still problems can occur anywhere that wasn't their fault that chipset was fast and HOT as heck, too hot.

I mean p67/z68 is the MAINSTREAM bro, we aren't even on the enthusiast chipset and all these problems, this just makes me cringe.

I will note however that I have NOT tried a direct INtel skull board with p67/z68 which if my now current maximus gene z board gives me ANY grief I will do that next.

FYI Current setup:

Asus Maximus Z, Corsair Dominator 2000 @ 1333 ( highest stable I can get ) completely subpar and ridiculous, 2600k, Gtx 580 x 3 tri-sli 3gb, NO oc

any adjustment to ram results in blue screen ( third set of sticks, started with vengeance ) 1333 seems stable but every so often black screen video lockup.

NO infinite boot loop yet ( YAY ????? )


The stuff is junk now man thats all there is too it, you shouldnt need to spend 5k AND diagnose your entire rig from start BEFORE you start OC'ing.


C
post #367 of 811
I found this thread when I googled gigabyte cold boot loops. I guess there's no definite fix for it yet since the thread started a couple of months ago frown.gif

I disabled the gigabyte logo during boot up and I'm getting this error.

[IMG=http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/6459/20110817110425.th.jpg][/IMG]

It shows that my bios is version F5 but I have F8 installed, whenever it shows F5 it means that it will be stuck in boot loop.

And I didn't even over clocked it, and I'm using a 1333mhz ram.

Its kinda frustrating since I dont know how to replicate so that I can have it replaced.
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Sound like you need to update your back up bios chip to the same bios as the main. Just hit alt and f12 at post and it will copy the main bio chip. This should fix your problem.
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Originally Posted by beetlespin;14635512 
Sound like you need to update your back up bios chip to the same bios as the main. Just hit alt and f12 at post and it will copy the main bio chip. This should fix your problem.

I think you just solved my problem eek.gif


So far so good, gotta test it out.


EDIT: Now it does the boot loop again, there's another line saying

"Waiting for ME ready ... " then count downs then reboots.
Edited by tjcad - 8/19/11 at 6:35am
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Anyone knows what

"Waiting for ME ready ... " means?

It says that then counts down from 9 to 0 then shutsdown after 0 then turns back again.


Its difficult to google that, most of the results are "ga-z68x-ud4-b3 is waiting for me, ready for me to... laugher.gif

Is that a RAM error?

Anyway here's a picture of the error.

20110820005802.th.jpg
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