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post #571 of 810
Hallelujah! Micro Center comes through again.

I spoke with a younger fellow who said he had experience building systems, including several with the very board in question. He agreed that it looked as if I had two problems, one I have affectionately (?!) calling "Oot-bay Oops-lay", in the same pig Latin vein as the cereal commercial. The machine would sometimes start and then restart and sometimes the reset switch would cause it to power down for 30 seconds and then come back up.

I mentioned the problem of the system presenting a CPU panic error, a missing CPU error, and a Windows bug check. It seems that these would occur about the time the software switched into the higher resolution mode. He agreed to replace both the MoBo and the CPU. My outlay was about $35 to cover the higher priced Asus P8Z68V-Gen3 board and a tube of thermal grease for the Thermaltake cooler.

The board came up on the first try without a reboot. It told me there had been a CPU change so it was entering setup. Sure. There was once no CPU and now there was a very fancy one. No problem, except that the BIOS setup screen was fully graphical, with full mouse control.

Talk about a mind blower. I had absolutely no idea where to find anything. I was able to figure it out rather easily and the more I work with it the more I like it. Asus has done a really find job with this board. It has some neat features, and a very strange one.

There are no chipset fans. Instead there are these curved blue heat fins that look something like Sydney opera house. It was a little tight but there was ample room to mount the Thermaltake C30 cooler, and with far less hassle than on the Gigabyte board. The on-board LED is inside a power switch. Just push this device and the system will power up, even if the front panel is not connected. That is a very nice touch.

There is a memory light and a button. If your memory is not up to the standards of the system it will sample and reboot as often as necessary to re-configure itself to use that memory. As it is the BIOS listed my four memory sticks by brand and type and all of the specifications for them. Apparently it likes them, even though they are not on the approved memory list.

The strange feature is the memory sockets. These are one sided. You slide in the stick and push down. The left side does not move but the right side does.

I put in the Ubuntu CD and saw the funny symbols appear that show it is loading. These disappeared for a few seconds and then an option screen appeared asking if I wanted to install or just run. I chose the run option, the screen blanked for a second, after which I had a full desktop in 1928 x 1280. I clicked the Firefox button and brought up my own Website. I did not kow that old monitor could reach that sort of resolution but it did.

So far so good. I will hook up the hard drive, install Windows 7 OEM, and not activate it until I am sure this new MoBo is going to hold up. So far it looks very promising.

Many thanks. one and all, for all of the good postings here.
Edited by Backup Bob - 1/4/12 at 3:03pm
post #572 of 810
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Originally Posted by MOOGLEYS;20951389 
Well I spoke to soon. Whilst in standby it decided to start cold booting again.
2 hours later I now have a dead SSD. Enough is enough with this god awful board it's going back as not fit for purpose and I will get something else. I will also claim from Gigabyte for my now dead SSD.

I'm on the 7B bios.

^ Looks like others are getting it too even with the latest bios, What the hell is up with this board!
post #573 of 810
The new Asus board comes up every time. It never rebooted itself, the BIOS setup is a breeze and fully mouse aware, and it got onto the Internet through Ubuntu with no configuration. I have rebooted a few times with no incidents.

The Gigabyte board has terrific promise and tons of features. The Asus board just works. I will take reliable over possible any day, thank you.
post #574 of 810
Had a reply from Gigabyte support
Quote:
Hi,

Yes F7A is older. Please update and feedback the result. We have test both F7C and F7a and it solve the cold boot issue.

They are not listening at all, I've got people on other forums saying that the F7C doesn't solve the cold boot issue, sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn't. I could boot later and be stuck on the cold boot issue. So far they've released F7A, F7B and F7C each time support says " it solves the cold boot issue ". I found F7C to be a terrible bios release, F7B lasted 3 days before it cold booted. A number of users found that the F7A and F7B cold boot issues started straight away.

Also being told constantly how to update the bios correctly by some is annoying, just because the bios was cleared, voltage cleared out and bios backed up doesn't fix the main cause.

Think i'll give up, if the cold boot issue happens I'll just pull the PSU plug, put it back in and have it boot as normal, Then use the system as when it's up and running it's perfect.
post #575 of 810
Yes, that is quite a way to run your reputation into the ground. My board came with F9. I upgraded to F10 and it still had problems.

Here is how you support your customer: The board as delivered (and factory tested) goes into a boot loop. Have the customer upgrade the BIOS. Have them pull the battery. Have them tweak a bunch of settings. Have them do this a number of times.
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I can see it now. My wife, for whom I am building this system, says, "Honey, the system just rebooted itself and I lost 20 pages of text. What do I do now?" And I tell her, "Just turn off the power and pull the plug. Take out the two screws at the back of the unit and remove the side skin. Get a pick and pop out the CMOS battery. Then go to a movie or clean the house. After 6 hours you can pop the battery back in, put the side skin back on the case, and try again."

Can anyone see a bad situation developing here? Can you see me in the dog house? The interesting thing is that do not have a dog.

What is amazing is that there are so many posts about this problem. Just Google Z68 boot loop and thousands of hits will come up, with most being aimed at Gigabyte.

I wrote Gigabyte on January 4th. I did get acknowledgment on screen, along with a Web address to check on the status of the request. Later I checked that address and when I signed in I was taken to a screen full of programming code. Today, January 5th, I got in and found the letter has not been read yet.

I thought Asus had bad support. This is terrible.
post #576 of 810
lol ^ rep'd smile.gif
post #577 of 810
I am running the z68xp-ud3, I am not running the newest bios. I stuck with the f6 bios as it supported everything I need at this point and it has been over a week. In my 20 years of building computers I have always been told not to update a bios unless something was the matter. Now I understand you guys are having post-loop issues but have you tried going back to the oldest bios that supports everything you want and upping the memory controller voltage manually on that bios?

Even when getting lockups from overclock instability a hard reset did not cause the bios to revert back or give me any warnings about a " failed overclock".

I bought my board because it was one of Toms Hardware Recommended buys more importantly it was $80 dollars off with the purchase of a 2600k at micro-center.
Edited by midad04 - 1/5/12 at 8:30am
    
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post #578 of 810
Good point midad04, the only reason I updated the bios in the first place was the support for newer cpu's at a late stage!. smile.gif
post #579 of 810
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Good point midad04, the only reason I updated the bios in the first place was the support for newer cpu's at a late stage!. smile.gif

On my board that bios was f3 iirc. I doubt I will upgrade to Ivy Bridge unless they release a 6core in the 1155 socket. As we all know Sandy Bridge processors are very competent performers. When has another cpu held the crown for a full 12 months or longer?
    
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post #580 of 810
I do not have any cold boot problems, but my computer with this main board does not power down (not even from bios when pressing power button). I have a i7, ssd, corsair psu600w, gtx580 and this gigabyte board. Not sure if it's the board, memory or psu, i'm trying to find it out.. problems began happening around 2 weeks i had this pc. I tried various things with memory didn't change anything, now im pondering on returning, trying a new psu or rma'ing the pc or board. Any ideas? Could it be the main board? I'm running F7B (had F6 before with same problems). Thanks.

Specs:
Corsair Graphite Series 600T -
ATX Corsair Builder Series CX600 V2 - voeding - 600 WattM
Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3P (rev. 1.0) - ATX - LGA1155 Socket - Z68
Intel Core i7 2600K / 3.4 GHz processor
Be quiet! Dark Rock Advanced C1
GeForce GTX 580 SuperClocked - GF GTX 580 - 1.5 GB
Corsair Vengeance geheugen - 8 GB : 2 x 4 GB - DIMM 240-pins - DDR3
OCZ Vertex 3 Series solid state drive - 120 GB - SATA-600HDD
Samsung SpinPoint F3 Desktop Class HD103SJ - 1 TB - SATA-300
ASUS Xonar DX
Edited by Ngai - 1/5/12 at 1:56pm
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