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Originally Posted by .:hybrid:. View Post
Whats more important, keeping personal privacy or exposing the corruption of governments/corperations?
Anyone who thinks it's the former is not a true American. Period.
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True. So that theory is thrown out the door.
Has any of the leaked info been confirmed?

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Whats more important, keeping personal privacy or exposing the corruption of governments/corperations?
Explain why they are mutually exclusive first.
Edited by _02 - 6/6/11 at 1:04pm
    
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Anyone who thinks it's the former is not a true American. Period.
I'd like to keep both thank you. Expose the corrupt and wicked while maintaining my privacy at all costs.
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Anyone who thinks it's the former is not a true American. Period.
Thank you for passing off your opinion of a proper American as a factual standard... not. Invasion of privacy without a proper court order is never justified under any situation. Furthermore, neither is compromising and exposing private information of innocent people ever justified. There are other ways to expose corruption and they have been utilized to great success before. To be a true American is to uphold our unalienable rights as per the Declaration of Independence and our Bill of Rights and IMHO right to privacy is one of them, especially per the Bill of Rights. Again, there is no justification for a group of underground justice pricks to compromise and expose the private data of not only corporations, but innocent people (especially them) through criminal acts.
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I'd like to keep both thank you. Expose the corrupt and wicked while maintaining my privacy at all costs.
Sometimes that isn't possible, and unless you worked at said companies and shared guilt in said corruption, your info would be meaningless in the grand scheme of things.

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Thank you for passing off your opinion of a proper American as a factual standard... not. Invasion of privacy without a proper court order is never justified under any situation. Furthermore, neither is compromising and exposing private information of innocent people ever justified. There are other ways to expose corruption and they have been utilized to great success before. To be a true American is to uphold our unalienable rights as per the Declaration of Independence and our Bill of Rights and IMHO right to privacy is one of them, especially per the Bill of Rights. Again, there is no justification for a group of underground justice pricks to compromise and expose the private data of not only corporations, but innocent people (especially them) through criminal acts.
So to sum this up, you're totally fine with the government doing and getting away with the very same acts you're blasting LulzSec for?

Except in this case, the acts the government would carry out against an entire country could lead to potentially far worse circumstances. War is an OK sacrifice for you? Innocent men, women, and children's lives in other countries, as well as our own soldiers lives are a perfectly acceptable sacrifice? If your name, position at a company, and maybe an email address or ID number is too large a sacrifice for you to be willing to give up in order to stop something much greater, then yes, I would question your Americanism, patriotism, and your human character in general.
Edited by Pillz Here - 6/6/11 at 1:30pm
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Originally Posted by willis888 View Post
Send in two spies, one of whom is doomed without knowing it. Your real spy outs the doomed spy, and 'proves' they are loyal to your enemy. See chapter 13 of Sun Tzu's Art of War.
Sounds like that old movie "Spies Like Us"...

Anyway, you can't rule out it being a current or formal Government worker, think about it!!!

It could also be Wikileaks reborn? (Note how they attacked CBS after the News about Lulz & Wikileaks?)

Nevertheless, who ever is doing this is definitely not amateur, not even a little bit...

Prior CIA?

I mean jeeze, these guys are good!

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Thank you for passing off your opinion of a proper American as a factual standard... not. Invasion of privacy without a proper court order is never justified under any situation. Furthermore, neither is compromising and exposing private information of innocent people ever justified. There are other ways to expose corruption and they have been utilized to great success before. To be a true American is to uphold our unalienable rights as per the Declaration of Independence and our Bill of Rights and IMHO right to privacy is one of them, especially per the Bill of Rights. Again, there is no justification for a group of underground justice pricks to compromise and expose the private data of not only corporations, but innocent people (especially them) through criminal acts.
I wonder if you have ever watched Star Wars "The Empire Strikes Back"...


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Whats more important, keeping personal privacy or exposing the corruption of governments/corperations?
I'd have to say, being an American, that both are equally important, but exposing the corruption isn't something that anyone should deem it upon themselves to do, isn't that what the media is for? Wait, this is the internet, one of the largest Media Owned entities of all!

I think anyone would be a fool to believe the other side isn't invading people's privacy, just because they can... (They got money you know & the skills)
Edited by _GTech - 6/6/11 at 1:44pm
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Sometimes that isn't possible, and unless you worked at said companies and shared guilt in said corruption, your info would be meaningless in the grand scheme of things.



So to sum this up, you're totally fine with the government doing and getting away with the very same acts you're blasting LulzSec for?

Except in this case, the acts the government would carry out against an entire country could lead to potentially far worse circumstances. War is an OK sacrifice for you? Innocent men, women, and children's lives in other countries, as well as our own soldiers lives are a perfectly acceptable sacrifice? If your name, position at a company, and maybe an email address or ID number is too large a sacrifice for you to be willing to give up in order to stop something much greater, then yes, I would question your Americanism, patriotism, and your human character in general.
Where did I say I supported government or corporation corruption. Please don't make up crap, it makes you look foolish. What I said and will reiterate again for you, trying to unveil corruption is no justification at all for compromising the privacy of citizens. There are other ways to expose corruption. Also, you make it sound like those information are such small sacrifices. Any private info can aid in identity theft, threats, and other malicious activities. America was founded on the basis of protecting our basic rights as citizens, and what LulSec is publicly doing is in direct violation of that. Besides, we have checks and balance as well as other legal processes to help control the government. Who is controlling those pricks at LulzSec? Their great unwavering patriotism? Don't make me laugh. Even you can't be that naive. LulzSec is a vigilante group with their heads stuck up their own asses that has now dabbled in threats and extortion. If you are willing to sacrifice your own privacy, go on ahead. I will hang on to my patriotism and honest sense of morals and value my own privacy as my right.
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wow the guys at Lulz must have balls like moons......

if these clown shoes at Lulz have an direct impact with my in the future because of this and their "im better then you" way of thinking, i will hunt them down and staple them to a kitchen table and beat them with their own keyboard until i get tired and want a snacky yum yum.....maybe a cupcake or an oreo....

The internet is a terrible terrible place full of pain and suffering...and the only answer....is to kill it with fire....


EDIT: by direct impact i mean if the internet is changed, or i have to pay more, or they steal my credit card info (which they probably already did) or some how make gas prices go up higher......death
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