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Did you try the audio out on the rear of the mobo?
The front jack will only work if you plug the case connector onto the header of the mobo, and set the type of audio (AC'97 or HD Audio) in the BIOS to match which your case audio cable uses.
Headphone out won't drive any speaker with a sub, but you can use headphones to test it.
Do your speakers require an AC cord or DC adapter to be plugged in to operate.
You also need to select the proper audio out method in the mixer to drive the speaker out as opposed to SP/DIF or optical audio out. (It is usually accessible via the speaker icon in the taskbar with a right click, or thru the control panel).
Good Luck!

i mentioned i only ran it out the headphone jack to make sure the speakers still worked. I knew it would drive it. I discovered this problem by runnning out the back of the mobo. the place where the owners manual told me to. Na Na. It is set up at analog, like it also has. Altec Lansing ACS45B speakers. Requires a ac cord. When I plug the speakers into the mob, as before my other puters, I get the normal crackling I normally do when hooking up a speaker.
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Yes they are TridentX they are PC19200(2400Mhz) 10-12-12-31-cr1 1.65v so they won't overclock much, I've tested them at 2400, 2300, 2200 and 2133 and at 2133 with lower latencies they are actually faster than at 2400. I've used RipjawsZ 1866Mhz 16 gig kits and they worked flawlessly so I would think the 2133Mhz kit would be the same. You shouldn't have any problems with the Trident X kit either, as to overclocking them it depends what ram chips are on the modules e.g. 2400Mhz chips are 2600 ones that don't make the grade so overclocking them is a bit of a lottery. Overclocking the 2133's would depend on whether they are overclocked 2000Mhz rams or underclocked 2200's I would think you stand a good chance of getting them to run at 2200Mhz. I have never had a kit of G.Skill rams fail on me yet I find them very reliable.

Right! So, today I got my set of TridentX (the same kit you have). After a few tests I am really dissapointed. thinking.gif
Maybe it's because they are 2x8 GB and they need a little bit more voltage to run ...
I tried to run them @ 1333 MHz with 9-9-9-24-33 1T timings and it needed 1.57 V to boot up and start Windows eek.gif
Even now after I've done some tests in MemTest Pro there are errors :/
I really don't know what to do. I've changed slots from A2-B2 to A1-B1 but it doesn't matter.
So, I can I ask you a favour? Would you be so kind and (if it's possible) upload your BIOS settings (screenshots?) with your DRAM Timing section and your voltages ?
I thought it would be quite easy to get to 2133 MHz with 9-11-10-24 1T timmings but I am afraid I would have to bump my voltage to 1.7 or sth to make it stable. I am confused now ...
One more thing. When I had removed my old RAM and put the new one BIOS detected only 8 GB of memory. (maybe it's some kind of BIOS glitch or ...) After I swapped slots they is full 16 GB of memory visible but nevertheless it was quite "terrifying" wink.gif
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Right! So, today I got my set of TridentX (the same kit you have). After a few tests I am really dissapointed. thinking.gif
Maybe it's because they are 2x8 GB and they need a little bit more voltage to run ...
I tried to run them @ 1333 MHz with 9-9-9-24-33 1T timings and it needed 1.57 V to boot up and start Windows eek.gif
Even now after I've done some tests in MemTest Pro there are errors :/
I really don't know what to do. I've changed slots from A2-B2 to A1-B1 but it doesn't matter.
So, I can I ask you a favour? Would you be so kind and (if it's possible) upload your BIOS settings (screenshots?) with your DRAM Timing section and your voltages ?
I thought it would be quite easy to get to 2133 MHz with 9-11-10-24 1T timmings but I am afraid I would have to bump my voltage to 1.7 or sth to make it stable. I am confused now ...
One more thing. When I had removed my old RAM and put the new one BIOS detected only 8 GB of memory. (maybe it's some kind of BIOS glitch or ...) After I swapped slots they is full 16 GB of memory visible but nevertheless it was quite "terrifying" wink.gif

one pal had the same problem with his ram sticks... he has a sandy bridge, and it was only detecting 8gb (out of 16gb) in a2 and b1 slots... he thought that the socket was deffective and was one step away to RMA'ing... so he decided to re-install his whole rig.... dismount the MOBO, and stuff... and it was an overtighten screw that was causing the problem.... try and do that... maybe you have the same problem as my pal...
     
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Right! So, today I got my set of TridentX (the same kit you have). After a few tests I am really dissapointed. thinking.gif
Maybe it's because they are 2x8 GB and they need a little bit more voltage to run ...
I tried to run them @ 1333 MHz with 9-9-9-24-33 1T timings and it needed 1.57 V to boot up and start Windows eek.gif
Even now after I've done some tests in MemTest Pro there are errors :/
I really don't know what to do. I've changed slots from A2-B2 to A1-B1 but it doesn't matter.
So, I can I ask you a favour? Would you be so kind and (if it's possible) upload your BIOS settings (screenshots?) with your DRAM Timing section and your voltages ?
I thought it would be quite easy to get to 2133 MHz with 9-11-10-24 1T timmings but I am afraid I would have to bump my voltage to 1.7 or sth to make it stable. I am confused now ...
One more thing. When I had removed my old RAM and put the new one BIOS detected only 8 GB of memory. (maybe it's some kind of BIOS glitch or ...) After I swapped slots they is full 16 GB of memory visible but nevertheless it was quite "terrifying" wink.gif

You should either have cleared the Cmos before installing the new rams or put all your ram settings on auto. I'll upload the BIOS pics to Photobucket or somewhere and give you a link.

Some basic settings for Trident rams at 2133Mhz are.
Dram Cas Latency 9
Dram Ras to Cas Delay 11
Dram Ras Pre time 11
Dram Ras Act Time 31

You should be able to run with the rest on auto until I upload the pics, the default voltage is 1.65v but mine are running at 1.6v for now put the CR on 2 and don't test the memory with the CPU
overclocked to start with or you won't know if it is the ram that is showing errors or the memory controller. I have never used Memtest Pro for testing I use either Memtest86+ on a disc or AIDA64, I'll download Memtest Pro and run it and see if it errors.

http://s149.beta.photobucket.com/user/ConscriptUKC-X/library/BIOS%20Pics
Edited by Mistral - 12/20/12 at 7:35am
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[quote name="Mistral" url="/t/1035333/official-asus-sabertooth-990fx-owners-club/3850_50#post_18867503"
You should either have cleared the Cmos before installing the new rams or put all your ram settings on auto. I'll upload the BIOS pics to Photobucket or somewhere and give you a link.

Yeap! I have cleared CMOS and then I set it all on auto. I don't know... maybe it is more difficult to make 16 GB of RAM to run stable than 8 GB.
Now I run my rig @ 1600 MHz 9-9-9-24-40 1T



I checked the stability in LYNX and in Memtest Pro and there were no errors. I prefer Win Memtest Pro than Memtest86+ because the first one stresses also all cores. I can run 6 instances of Memtest Pro and assign equal amount of memory to test and each core has an access to for instance 2450 MB or RAM.
Quote:
Some basic settings for Trident rams at 2133Mhz are.
Dram Cas Latency 9
Dram Ras to Cas Delay 11
Dram Ras Pre time 11
Dram Ras Act Time 31

You should be able to run with the rest on auto until I upload the pics, the default voltage is 1.65v but mine are running at 1.6v for now put the CR on 2 and don't test the memory with the CPU
overclocked to start with or you won't know if it is the ram that is showing errors or the memory controller. I have never used Memtest Pro for testing I use either Memtest86+ on a disc or AIDA64, I'll download Memtest Pro and run it and see if it errors.

Well, my previous Corsair RAM was just brilliant comparing to the result I got using Trident X

Corsair XMS3 1333 MHZ VS. Trident X @1600 MHz



You can see the difference.
Corsair ... with CPU overclocked to 3.6 GHz is actually better than TridentX with CPU overclocked to 3.8 GHz and I wonder ... sth is not quite right here wink.gifblinksmiley.gif

EDIT:

...but this one looks better, huh ? wink.gif


Edited by pendrago - 12/20/12 at 8:43am
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16 gig of ram puts more stress on the memory controller, also 16gig in 2 dimms use bigger chips you can't compare 8 gig with 16 really, for a start the memory chips can be from different chip manufacturers. If you check people going for record benches rarely use more than 4 gig of ram.
I'm currently running Memtest pro 4.0 it's on 80% no errors.
If you check out the pics I posted you will see your Corsair ram is not even in the same ballpark.
Edited by Mistral - 12/20/12 at 8:30am
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16 gig of ram puts more stress on the memory controller....

And that's what I thought. Thanks for uploading BIOS screenshots! thumb.gif +Rep
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also 16gig in 2 dimms use bigger chips you can't compare 8 gig with 16 really, for a start the memory chips can be from different chip manufacturers.

And that's also a good point though when I buy a kit of 2x8 GB I would rather expect that memory chips come from the same manufacturer.
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If you check people going for record benches rarely use more than 4 gig of ram.

And that's probably the issue here. Having 8 GB of RAM was obviously an advantage because they were much more "responsive" (tighter timings, less power consumption).
Ok! Thanks very much for your posts. I wonder if it would be a good move to return the Tridents to a shop and buy a new set of those Corsairs (grrrrrr I damaged :/).

Edit:

I've seen those pictures but take into consideration that your results were taken with your CPU much more overclocked than mine. 5 GHz is hard to compare with 3.8 GHz ... and with CPU/NB 2.7 GHz. I will have to bump up CPU/NB from 1.36 V to somewhere near 1.4 V to get 2.7 GHz and I bet my results will be a way better than now. smile.gif
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And that's what I thought. Thanks for uploading BIOS screenshots! thumb.gif +Rep
And that's also a good point though when I buy a kit of 2x8 GB I would rather expect that memory chips come from the same manufacturer.
And that's probably the issue here. Having 8 GB of RAM was obviously an advantage because they were much more "responsive" (tighter timings, less power consumption).
Ok! Thanks very much for your posts. I wonder if it would be a good move to return the Tridents to a shop and buy a new set of those Corsairs (grrrrrr I damaged :/).
Edit:
I've seen those pictures but take into consideration that your results were taken with your CPU much more overclocked than mine. 5 GHz is hard to compare with 3.8 GHz ... and with CPU/NB 2.7 GHz. I will have to bump up CPU/NB from 1.36 V to somewhere near 1.4 V to get 2.7 GHz and I bet my results will be a way better than now. smile.gif

OK here is one with everything at stock auto settings CPU CPU/NB etc. and turbo disabled.

http://s149.beta.photobucket.com/user/ConscriptUKC-X/media/AIDA64/AIDA64-2133Mhz-1_zps0848b477.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0

I've run Memtest Pro for 4hrs and it hasn't produced a single error.
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enormous pain dude... my condelences... i feel you...
difference... in a big part, are the sata controllers... no more JMicron in r2.0.... i think a couple more of usb 3.0, and the bios obviously... i do not know if you have to rebuild your raid arrays..... but maybe you have to... just to keep it safe... try to do a backup and then reformat...

good news, didnt have to remake any of my raids, booted back up into windows without issue as well.

well, back to overclocking! thumb.gif
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good news, didnt have to remake any of my raids, booted back up into windows without issue as well.
well, back to overclocking! thumb.gif

glad to hear that... are you using the old sabertooth? or you have a new one...???
     
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