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Poll Results: whats your choice for 990fx

Poll expired: Jul 11, 2011  
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    Asus M5A97evo
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    Asus M5A99Xevo
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    Asus Sabertooth 990fx
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    MSI 990FXA-GD80
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post #4301 of 10135
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Originally Posted by Scorpion49 View Post

I've read it has something to do with the PWM chip that converts the amplitude signal to % speed not receiving enough voltage.

As far as I knew, with no signal on the fourth pin, the fan saw it as a 100% signal and thus: you're only issue would be the fans start-up voltage.

@electech:

I've never seen that issue with this board. Certain software can sometimes give faulty readings - HW-monitor - but in bios and the AI Suite software seem to be spot on for me.

The only fans I've ever seen it with are are Arctic Cooling F-series pwm with their power sharing tech (built in daisy chaining headers). They, from time to time reported rediculous speeds while still spinning along nicely like they should (so just a tacho signal (speed report) mix up, not the speed of the fan itself).
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What the heck happened to the last version of BIOS? (the one I'm on in fact...)

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Funny you two (Scorpion and Raephen) are discussing the 3-pin vs 4-pin and PWM vs. voltage control as I was just coming here to post a question about the Cha_fan headers on this board!

Quick question and not really that important but I'm curious..and actually I guess I have some other questions now that I read your two posts and are on that topic anyways...

My Cha_Fans3/4 seem to be misreporting their RPM's for the two case fans I have hooked up to them. Is this common?
I have two case fans on them, 1600/1900rpm models respectively and they are basically being reported at around double what they are actually running at (close to 3200/3800rpm).. all the other fans - CPU_fan/CPU_opt/Cha_fan1/2 are all reporting bang on and actually I'm using the same two model fans on cha_fan1/2 as I am on 3/4.. so that's how I know for sure they are working and what speeds they should be... and it's irregardless of the app being used to report it.. either via 3rd party monitoring or even the Asus suite and it's sensor readings..

Once again, not important but curious why this is and if it's typical or not and if there is anything I can do about this.. oh and ALL the fans in use on the board are the "3-pin voltage regulated" kind except for my CPU_Fan that is the one on the water cooler that is a 4-pin PWM kind...

And due to conversations you guys just had...and I think you're both pretty much bang on with the 3-pin/4-pin and pwm vs voltage descriptions.. that leads me to wondering about the fan headers on this Sabertooth board.. they're all 4-pin..and can handle pwm fans..but are obviously 3pin compatible too.. but based on the info Scorpion provided and it sounding like the *motherboard* can also handle the pulse and speed regulation on BOTH kinds of fans...does this mean, this board can basically use all the 3-pin case fans hooked up to the 4-pin chasis headers and regulate them in a way just like PWM? it appears to be customizable in that way via the bios and if I understand you correctly, mobo's can use the 12v 3-pin regulators and basically pulse them in a way as to control them much like 4-pin pwm models? Do I have that understood correctly or no?

Thanks guys

I used to have a 3 pin GT on my chasis fan port and set it in the Q profile to quiet and it worked. I now have 2 PWM 4-pin fans on the same port with the same Q profile and it works.

The 3-pin one has been on there since November and I haven't seen any issues.

The 4-pin pair has been on there for a few weeks now and I haven't seen any issues.

I have seen lots of 4-pin fans hooked up to 3-pin headers. There's a lot of them that do work. But every once in awhile there's a fan that does not like it for some reason. They either don't come on unless 100% or makes a humming sound are a couple of instances that I remember. I'm sure there were others.
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My RAM has been tested over and over with lower then 1.7v and its not stable. I have Corsair Dominators, (8GB Green AMD Edition, old, from 2009) they stay very cool, I have a Scythe AP-15 to cool them and the NB / VRM area, works great. All my power settings are on extreme.

Allright. I assume 4 sticks need, more voltage (well... I know that ;P). But I have found out that almost all of instability issues related with RAM come from having your CPU/NB Voltage set too low. Try to bump up to 1.32 (or even higher) and lower your power settings in CPU/NB to High. Then try to set you DRAM V to 1.65 V. I recommend to test your settings with this free program (though Pro version is easier and have no limitations free version has.) --> http://hcidesign.com/memtest/purchase.html

You can easily indicate if your CPU/NB or RAM Voltage (or memory timings) are incorrect by running this software. When it shows any error that means you have to either bump up CPU/NB or RAMSpeed is too high (or memory timings are too tight wink.gif

Here is an example of my Thuban with Corsair memory I use now.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

CPU/NB V set to 1.35 V

Well... in your case it could be different but ... you can try those settings and see what happens smile.gif
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it has been in my rigs just not in my signature.

Edit i put it in my sig just for you upsidedwnsmiley.gif

Thank you! Now everyone can see you have 2 identical rigs in a antec 900 case and only 1 has watercooling! tongue.gif
    
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post #4305 of 10135
I see I was added to the Sabertooth sheet on page one but I entered my link wrong is there away to fix that?

here is my CPU-Z link
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post #4306 of 10135
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it has been in my rigs just not in my signature.

Edit i put it in my sig just for you upsidedwnsmiley.gif

Thank you! Now everyone can see you have 2 identical rigs in a antec 900 case and only 1 has watercooling! tongue.gif








umm no one is a stryker "tuf stryker"

call it what you want... but the man said " you need to update your rigs"... so i put it in my sig since he didnt look at my rigs
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Hey guys

 

I just purchased a new GSkill 16GB (8 x 2) DDR3-1866/PC3-14900 Ripjaw kit with 9-10-9-28 timings and need a tad bit of help on what options within BIOS I need to modify to take advantage of the higher speeds. I upgraded from 16GB  DDR3-1066 kit from Corsair (the Vengeance series).

 

I only have my CPU overclocked from 4.0 to 4.4GHz (FX-8350) via the CPU Multiplier. I also have the CPU VCC bumped up to 1.4VDC. My memory was always set to AUTO as far as speed. I was told that in order to obtain the higher speeds this memory offers, I would have to set a few things manually in BIOS.

 

I have the memory installed at present and it shows up with a speed of 1333MHz when set to AUTO. I noticed the timing settings are correctly set to 9-10-9-28 via AUTO as well.

 

When I manually selected 1866 within the AI Tweaker menu, my system restarted and rudely presented me with 3 long/1 short which comes back as 'no memory installed' per the manual.

 

I don't care about overclocking the memory unless I need to force settings to play nice.

 

I have a Revision 1 mobo with the latest BIOS, 1604. Below is what I get when running CPU-Z
 

 

  

 

 

 

Thank guys.

 

Tim

post #4308 of 10135

look up D.O.C.P. in the BIOS section of the manual it will set your ram to factory specifications with the last profile #0 or #1

    
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Hi guys, i have a question regarding v-core1 temps. i figured since everyone here has a lot of experience with the Sabertooth 990fx, that this would be the best place to start. okay so here's my question: i currently have an AMD fx 8120 that is lightly overclocked to 3.5 from 3.1. All the voltages are stock, I Oc'ed using the multiplier only. I've ran prime95 for about 3 hours now and all of my temps are fine. Using Hw monitor, my highest core temps were 42 c. However, i am a little concerned about my V core temps. My vcore 1 temps reached 61 c, while my vcore 2 temps reached 52c. Are these safe operating temperatures? I haven't gotten any warnings from Ai suite, but i am still concerned. Could anyone chime in on this?

Also, the picture in my rigbuilder is dated. I am no longer using the stock cpu cooler. I currently have a Cooler master hyper 212+
Edited by Lagpirate - 2/27/13 at 12:46pm
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Hi guys, i have a question regarding v-core1 temps. i figured since everyone here has a lot of experience with the Sabertooth 990fx, that this would be the best place to start. okay so here's my question: i currently have an AMD fx 8120 that is lightly overclocked to 3.5 from 3.1. All the voltages are stock, I Oc'ed using the multiplier only. I've ran prime95 for about 3 hours now and all of my temps are fine. Using Hw monitor, my highest core temps were 42 c. However, i am a little concerned about my V core temps. My vcore 1 temps reached 61 c, while my vcore 2 temps reached 52c. Are these safe operating temperatures? I haven't gotten any warnings from Ai suite, but i am still concerned. Could anyone chime in on this?

Also, the picture in my rigbuilder is dated. I am no longer using the stock cpu cooler. I currently have a Cooler master hyper 212+

Those Vcore temperatures look well within the limits - I've had higher.

Though, I disliked having them higher than my cpi temp, so my solution was to create more airflow over the area.

If your case can do it, a side fan always helps, and/or if your cpu cooler will allow it, space-wise, even one or two small and silent fans directly over the vrm-heatsink helps.
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