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Poll Results: whats your choice for 990fx

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    Asus M5A97evo
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    Asus M5A99Xevo
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    Asus Sabertooth 990fx
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There is 2 360 X30mm Rads in P/P and a 240X30mm in push only, a photon 170 with 2 D5 Vario pumps in the case.

this pic shows the hidden pump and XSPC 240 rad
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There is 2 360 X30mm Rads in P/P and a 240X30mm in push only, a photon 170 with 2 D5 Vario pumps in the case.

this pic shows the hidden pump and XSPC 240 rad

Wow, that is spectacular. my cooling set up is not worthy. 5 GHz requires 1.476V on mine in BIOS. I haven't gone higher so far.
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Prime isn't the best for testing AMD cpu's, I have found a combination of Realbench 2 and playing proper games for a few hours will highlight any weaknesses. Prime will generate a ton of heat but not exactly what you will be doing day to day on your machine.

Yes it overheats quickly with Prime. I think I will try your alternative solution. But if prime fails on a core then it must not be fully stable, right?
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Thanks. there are way better ones built here, Look around and you will see, guys with way more patients than me.LOL


yes if it falters at all during the run of the test it is not stable, heck I have run a lot of test some fail some don't
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i was wondering what you all use for controlling your fans on the sabertooth up till recently ive used the asus sofware just wondering if there is a better low impact controler
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Wow, that is spectacular. my cooling set up is not worthy. 5 GHz requires 1.476V on mine in BIOS. I haven't gone higher so far.

I'm sorry, but maybe it's 1.476V to boot up at 5GHz. Mine requires 1.55V+ to be IBT AVX stable at 5GHz, and that's with core temps in the mid 40s. Do you have all four modules/eight cores enabled (assuming octocore)?
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Hey guys, not very good at overclocking (never done it before) but have read up and watched a bunch of guides on it. However, I'm not sure I want to pull the trigger just yet. My question(s) is, does the sabertooth 990fx r2 have an "auto overclock"? I see the optimal setting in the ez mode bios. For now, should I just turn that on to get a little overclock for a little better performance? Should I worry about anything like stability, etc etc. Any help would be great.
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Thanks ZombieWorm, will throttling show up in CPU-Z?

Well if you were looking at it or logs yes, but you would see it on benchmark scores and when gaming. You can use overlays to display it.
jsut use HWinfo and be done with it
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Prime isn't the best for testing AMD cpu's, I have found a combination of Realbench 2 and playing proper games for a few hours will highlight any weaknesses. Prime will generate a ton of heat but not exactly what you will be doing day to day on your machine.
yea, that is not stable, and while that may be stable enough for you, please dont say that is enough for everyone, i dont think you have a full understanding of why it is important to be stable, again it may be enough for you, which is great, but this is a great reason why it pays to be stable, and why it is somewhat important, and it is very well written
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I seriously question the need for all this 24hr testing going on your brand new CPU, I see numerous cases here of guys bragging about their 24hr stress testing, or saying someones overclock is not stable because they haven't benched for 24 hrs.

How much experience have you had with overclocking? This attitude is generally reserved for amateur overclockers who have never had corrupted data.
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A stress test is running all of your CPU cores flat out for however long you run the test, unless of course a core drops out because your overclock is unstable, I see the need for short term testing say an hour or maybe 2, because it won't take that long for an unstable overclock to show itself, but 24hrs in my opinion is not necessary.

I think you are confused. The error is not found because the CPU is at 100%. A major error, or more likely, many tiny irrecoverable errors, happen at any % of CPU usage. The programs are designed to find inconsistencies as fast as possible, utilizing all resources available to determine the stability. Its not lets see how hard we can squeeze your CPU till it breaks. Is it stressful? Sure, is the stress that causes error? No, that would be instability or heat. Another good way to test your cooling solution too I might add.
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There is not a thing on this planet designed to last forever, your precious CPU included when companies like Intel and AMD, guarantee their CPUs for 3 yr warranty time period, they're confident their CPUs will actually go past that time period, however that calculation is based on 3 yrs and beyond of normal use.

They know their CPUs are capable of lasting under normal spec'd use longer than the 3 yrs or they would not warranty them that long.

Not sure why this is even here. This has nothing to do with stability testing, unless you are assuming that all CPUs that are brand new should not be tested @ stock settings? Which a CPU should be tested to ensure its not defective. Rare, but it can happen.
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Now the cold hard fact is that overclocking your CPU will shorten its lifespan, but we accept that for the additional speed we gain, most of us will replace that cpu with an upgrade before is life expectancy arrives anyway, so taking it out of specifications is acceptable.

Has nothing to do with stability testing. Its about error prevention.
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However that's with normal day to day use, surfing the web, audio and video editing and converting, gaming, office documentation Etc, and though serious bench stress testing is necessary to achieve a stable overclock, what damage does stress testing over a 24 hr time period and beyond, actually do to shorten the lifespan of your new CPU.

Why would you even overclock then?
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For example if you stress test your new quad core CPU for 24hrs, and all 4 cores are running at 100% for 24 hrs, how much normal daily processing is lost, because no daily application uses all 4 cores at 100% for 24hrs, so at least think about that when you overclock your CPU, and use at least some kind of wisdom in your stress testing.

Again its not the stress that creates the error, its stress that finds the error. Errors can occur with as little as 1% core usage. The alternative is to use your computer until one day, your boot sector is corrupted, and Windows 7 repair, can't fix the files as the damage has occurred widespread through your file-system. At this point you are even lucky to recover data off the hard drive. Assuming you are still not using an unstable overclock, recovering data, will most likely keep it corrupt/re-corrupt it.
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Because if you don't think you're adding to shortening the life of your CPU, you're wrong!

Stress testing your CPU, if its adequately cooled, is not shortening your hardwares life, its the extra voltage/clock cycles from the overclock if anything. It sounds like you have a ton still to learn / grasp and thats okay. Overclocking has many useful applications, such as a technical server upgrade, gaming, scientific calculations, protein folding, etc. Many of those demand stability for personal and professional reasons. Folding requires 100% accurate data, or its wasteful time for both the user and server, which anyday can provide a cure to cancer (hopefully.) A non tested overclock in that field is extremely frowned upon by many people who dedicate entire machines to just folding.

I am not saying you have to stress test your CPU, or it will die and kill everything in your computer, but you are not going to convince anyone who knows what they are doing that its a waste of time.

I don't get why people are ever against having a fully stable system? It takes about a day if you actually have good settings. Maybe apathy or general laziness, but still, it will create so many headaches in the long run trying to figure out why the computer just doesn't want to work today.
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Wow, that is spectacular. my cooling set up is not worthy. 5 GHz requires 1.476V on mine in BIOS. I haven't gone higher so far.
i bet your not stable
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i was wondering what you all use for controlling your fans on the sabertooth up till recently ive used the asus sofware just wondering if there is a better low impact controler
Aquaero 6 ! and i will never use anything but that
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Wow, that is spectacular. my cooling set up is not worthy. 5 GHz requires 1.476V on mine in BIOS. I haven't gone higher so far.

I'm sorry, but maybe it's 1.476V to boot up at 5GHz. Mine requires 1.55V+ to be IBT AVX stable at 5GHz, and that's with core temps in the mid 40s. Do you have all four modules/eight cores enabled (assuming octocore)?
yep.
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Hey guys, not very good at overclocking (never done it before) but have read up and watched a bunch of guides on it. However, I'm not sure I want to pull the trigger just yet. My question(s) is, does the sabertooth 990fx r2 have an "auto overclock"? I see the optimal setting in the ez mode bios. For now, should I just turn that on to get a little overclock for a little better performance? Should I worry about anything like stability, etc etc. Any help would be great.

even if it did it is not worth using, either it will over volt or not be stable. let me know if you need any help, it is fun and easy , just takes time !!~
Edited by Mega Man - 3/18/14 at 6:42am
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yea, that is not stable, and while that may be stable enough for you, please dont say that is enough for everyone, i dont think you have a full understanding of why it is important to be stable, again it may be enough for you, which is great, but this is a great reason why it pays to be stable, and why it is somewhat important, and it is very well written

yea, equally let's not just dismiss other people's input. Ian Parry who works for OcUK (whom has a ton of world records) also says stress testing for hours on end with prime/IBT is not necessary. If you want to do that then fine, but to say that people "do not have a full understanding" is almost offensive to some people who have been overclocking for decades! thumb.gif
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I'm sorry, but maybe it's 1.476V to boot up at 5GHz. Mine requires 1.55V+ to be IBT AVX stable at 5GHz, and that's with core temps in the mid 40s. Do you have all four modules/eight cores enabled (assuming octocore)?

Yes, I'm using all cores with 2 x 8 G.Skill 2133. It will do 2133 stock but not overclocked, 1600 MHz at 5GHz.
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I've always gone for Prime95 stability - and I might be doing wishful thinking. Thanks, we'll see what better cooling can do with some more tweaking.
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