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Poll Results: whats your choice for 990fx

Poll expired: Jul 11, 2011  
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    Asus M5A97evo
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    Asus M5A99Xevo
  • 49% (58)
    Asus Sabertooth 990fx
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    Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD7
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    MSI 990FXA-GD80
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post #6751 of 10135
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Definite answer?, no. The VRM heatsink up front will have the biggest effect on dropping VRM temps. Factly because of the heatsink. The backside only has a plate which will gain you less temp drop than the one up front.
I just looked over the backside of the Sabertooth in the VRM area. On the M5A99 boards, there are 8 small chips there that have been measured to reach over 113C. Those backside chips at those temps certainly add to the heat of the frontside chips. (1/16th fiberglass has an R rating of way less than 1) I think that plate is acting like a small heatsink for those chips. That frontside vrm heatsink, while one of the largest for 990 boards, certainly isnt massive enough to require metal plate reinforcement, lol. tongue.gif

Anyway, front and back cooling should be used for maximum benefit.

Also adding a strip heatsink there looks like a nice do able mod for the M5A boards.
Edited by cpmee - 4/13/14 at 4:23pm
    
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I just looked over the backside of the Sabertooth in the VRM area. On the M5A99 boards, there are 8 small chips there that have been measured to reach over 113C. Those backside chips at those temps certainly add to the heat of the frontside chips. (1/16th fiberglass has an R rating of way less than 1) I think that plate is acting like a small heatsink for those chips. That frontside vrm heatsink, while one of the largest for 990 boards, certainly isnt massive enough to require metal plate reinforcement, lol. tongue.gif

Anyway, front and back cooling should be used for maximum benefit.

Also adding a strip heatsink there looks like a nice do able mod for the M5A boards.

There's no such thing as a heatsink big enough to cool these VRMs when everyone is pushing the crap out of their system 😁

Those delicate components though heatsinked needs additional aids from air flow.

Yes, I was considering slapping in an old heatsink at the back as well. But might ruin my warranty on this new board. And my case got some of the plate up top.

Bottom line is, power components work best at 50% or less of their max thermal limits.
post #6753 of 10135
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There's no such thing as a heatsink big enough to cool these VRMs when everyone is pushing the crap out of their system 😁
Heh, aint that the truth. tongue.gif
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And my case got some of the plate up top.
Yeah, and some cases have no back hole at all. Thats why I think the most Asus could do was just to use a plain aluminum bar back there.
Edited by cpmee - 4/13/14 at 5:18pm
    
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post #6754 of 10135
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you need to turn off apm OR turn on HPC
apm will throttle the cpu at 40c socket, and again @ 72c socket.

it will also throttle if you pull too many amps

HPC will stop all throttling except socket @72 on this board

oh thanks, that did the trick, now to find my max load temp again and see if i have enough headroom for overclocking... if my PSU will hold out
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post #6755 of 10135
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Yeah, and some cases have no back hole at all. Thats why I think the most Asus could do was just to use a plain aluminum bar back there.

Yup.

Mine got a back opening for the CPU Backplate. The VRM backplate was not completely cleared though.

By the way, I came from a UD3 rev3 redface.gif and was already making my own VRM heatsink before the mobo died. rolleyes.gif

Good thing my CPU wasn't hurt. LOL

On a note though, I think my CPU is a DUD!!! 4.9 cant be cleared even with 1.55V
post #6756 of 10135
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I just looked over the backside of the Sabertooth in the VRM area. On the M5A99 boards, there are 8 small chips there that have been measured to reach over 113C. Those backside chips at those temps certainly add to the heat of the frontside chips. (1/16th fiberglass has an R rating of way less than 1) I think that plate is acting like a small heatsink for those chips. That frontside vrm heatsink, while one of the largest for 990 boards, certainly isnt massive enough to require metal plate reinforcement, lol. tongue.gif

Anyway, front and back cooling should be used for maximum benefit.

Also adding a strip heatsink there looks like a nice do able mod for the M5A boards.

There's no such thing as a heatsink big enough to cool these VRMs when everyone is pushing the crap out of their system 😁

Those delicate components though heatsinked needs additional aids from air flow.

Yes, I was considering slapping in an old heatsink at the back as well. But might ruin my warranty on this new board. And my case got some of the plate up top.

Bottom line is, power components work best at 50% or less of their max thermal limits.
wont need on the back. it wont hurt though
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Yeah, and some cases have no back hole at all. Thats why I think the most Asus could do was just to use a plain aluminum bar back there.

Yup.

Mine got a back opening for the CPU Backplate. The VRM backplate was not completely cleared though.

By the way, I came from a UD3 rev3 redface.gif and was already making my own VRM heatsink before the mobo died. rolleyes.gif

Good thing my CPU wasn't hurt. LOL

On a note though, I think my CPU is a DUD!!! 4.9 cant be cleared even with 1.55V
1.6 at that level is not uncommon
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post #6757 of 10135
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wont need on the back. it wont hurt though
It would be extra insurance for me if my 92mm fan fails for some reason. The fan is on the back where I dont usually see it for long times and its on my cpu-opt header and since I mostly use HWinfo64 for my readings, the cpu_opt fan speed is curiously not displayed. I have to use AI Suite II (or bios) to see the cpu_opt fan header readings.
Then again, if I saw my socket temps suddenly increase, I would investigate, heh.
    
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It would be extra insurance for me if my 92mm fan fails for some reason. The fan is on the back where I dont usually see it for long times and its on my cpu-opt header and since I mostly use HWinfo64 for my readings, the cpu_opt fan speed is curiously not displayed. I have to use AI Suite II (or bios) to see the cpu_opt fan header readings.
Then again, if I saw my socket temps suddenly increase, I would investigate, heh.

A finned heatsink at the back will really help cool the VRM. You will have around twice the effective cooling capacity of the stock VRM Heatsink with some proper fans and good airflow.
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wont need on the back. it wont hurt though

Yeah tell me. Got my VRMs ruuning past 75 with a closed back cover. and a good 55 max at Ultra with it open and a fan. biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif
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1.6 at that level is not uncommon

LOL 4.9 bootable at 1.55.. Guess I'll have to get it wet to shoot 5.0GHz. biggrin.gif

Gotta go save myself a 360mm kit.. drool.gif
post #6759 of 10135
I would like to leave a tip about VRM cooling. I made this little doohickie out of a ram cooler which was just a waste of space really, but it did have a perfect 40mm fan with working LED and thermocouple so I stuck that bad boy in there. I provided a pic.



It helped me achieve this http://valid.x86.fr/1izwdb, as you can see I had to *upgrade my ram* as my mushkin was fried eggs-n-ham after that run and my psu was never the same and the gpu, well it was time to upgrade that as well smile.gif And yes I know about the RM850 recall, mines is a 1347 so I am in the safe zone, but for those that don't know and you own a Corsair RM750 or like me the RM850 you should read a recall notice from Corsair about a potential issue that may effect your PSU. Here is the link http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=123484
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I would like to leave a tip about VRM cooling. I made this little doohickie out of a ram cooler which was just a waste of space really, but it did have a perfect 40mm fan with working LED and thermocouple so I stuck that bad boy in there. I provided a pic.



It helped me achieve this http://valid.x86.fr/1izwdb, as you can see I had to *upgrade my ram* as my mushkin was fried eggs-n-ham after that run and my psu was never the same and the gpu, well it was time to upgrade that as well smile.gif And yes I know about the RM850 recall, mines is a 1347 so I am in the safe zone, but for those that don't know and you own a Corsair RM750 or like me the RM850 you should read a recall notice from Corsair about a potential issue that may effect your PSU. Here is the link http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=123484

Fantastic overclock, I have the same CPU and Motherboard. Would you, if you don't mind, post or PM me with your BIOS settings for that OC?

Here is what I have achieved so far:

http://valid.canardpc.com/ijsaat

Thanks,

Mike
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