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Poll Results: whats your choice for 990fx

Poll expired: Jul 11, 2011  
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post #6881 of 10135
So I got bored and fiddled with my rig some more. No boot for the life of it. Get this, REMOVED BIOS CHIP and re-installed,a nd now shes booting. With my ES and 1 stick of 4GB 1866 being run at DDR800, lol. But its booting. smile.gif

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Originally Posted by carloyz250f View Post

thank you sir.. im having a warning! linpack binary stopped unexpectedly. is this an error on my core or only in the software?

I assume you are using windows 8, I had the same problem... run the compatibility assistant (or just put it in win 7 compatibility) and the run as admin... should work then. some say its instablity, but it isn't.. its just a problem with windows... remember, any negative numbers in the output means instability, and the normal answers I see are 3.xxxx e002 I believe... anyway... even if it gives that unexpected stop error the output column can give you a clue to your stability.
post #6883 of 10135
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So I got bored and fiddled with my rig some more. No boot for the life of it. Get this, REMOVED BIOS CHIP and re-installed,a nd now shes booting. With my ES and 1 stick of 4GB 1866 being run at DDR800, lol. But its booting. smile.gif


Nice, maybe it's because the ES? I wrote you a PM. Please take your time to read it. Thanks a lot!
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is this means that im stable? or should i do more test on prime?

edit. when stresstesting on level high i always have a linpack error but on maximum i was stable.. thinking.gif

"On max stable" might mean CPU LLC and CPU/NB doing their thing to keep V steady, but on high it fluctuates. Just a guess.
post #6885 of 10135
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Nice, maybe it's because the ES? I wrote you a PM. Please take your time to read it. Thanks a lot!

At first it wasnt booting with ES either, so its not the chip that made it worked. Im really starting to think I have a bad dimm, and I think I have isolated at least 2 that are good. So i got 8GB RAM. Im gonna do some further testing before I dig into switching CPUs. Wasting all my paste... lol
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My friend and i have been wondering what are the chances of getting 3000MHz stable on the CPU-NB/NB?
Pretty low. I have seen 2800 stable (not my chip) and I have benched at 3000 but never stable. And when it did pass the bench it bsod shortly after. And this is with 1.6v on cpu/nb.

I also now have a reviewers chip. I need to try and push this one. Atm I have
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as to benching we gotta teach you to do a icebox chiller!

Something like a Hailea HC-500A Water Chiller ?[/quote]
That is really expensive. Icebox chiller I'd when you take a rad (no fans) drop it in a ice box full of ice and water. For benching. Have to worry about condensation
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So I got bored and fiddled with my rig some more. No boot for the life of it. Get this, REMOVED BIOS CHIP and re-installed,a nd now shes booting. With my ES and 1 stick of 4GB 1866 being run at DDR800, lol. But its booting. smile.gif


Could of just been poor contact glad it is fixed now
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Pretty low. I have seen 2800 stable (not my chip) and I have benched at 3000 but never stable. And when it did pass the bench it bsod shortly after. And this is with 1.6v on cpu/nb.

I also now have a reviewers chip. I need to try and push this one. Atm I have
Something like a Hailea HC-500A Water Chiller ?
That is really expensive. Icebox chiller I'd when you take a rad (no fans) drop it in a ice box full of ice and water. For benching. Have to worry about condensation
Could of just been poor contact glad it is fixed now

Yeah i figured as much
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my laptop died last night sorry。 as i am in china it took me a long time to try and (unsucessfully) fix it. with that said i am on tablet so no spoilers
this is the pettiness. 1.16is .04v far away from 1.2which in the world of cpus is alot where 0.05v can make or break you (or even less). esp when it can add the most heat

Okay point granted. However, as I have mentioned, I got mine higher than 1.35 with no significant change in temperature compared to using just the multi. And, at 2500 CPU-NB, my system would crash anything with lower than 1.3 Volts at 4.8MHz. Should I recommend that if I am not having issues to that known part? NO

Also, pettiness is saying 99% of chips can do 2600 at stock CPU-NB Voltage. Why don't you make a poll to involve everyone on this thread as well as the main Vishera 83XX thread to find out.

Another thing that I never recommended him to go that high on the CPU-NB Voltage. I mentioned repeatedly to observe his temps. Switching from both process. Have I been over-assuming? biggrin.gifrolleyes.gif
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my first question is why are you fsb ocing. the volts will stay the same. but you should learn with just multi.

with that said. you need to keep pcieat 100 no matter what until you are more experianced

bump nb volts (not cpu\nb to 1.2-1.25)

IF YOU HAVE A FAN ON YOUR VRM HEATSINKS!!! (if not get one at these ocs they are needed)

cpu power phase control to extreme
cpu power responce control and cpu\nb set to whatever is maximum. (i dont remember atm somone will have to help. as i am getting ready for a funeral i dont have time sorry)



cpu power duty to current control


you dont need hpc enabled when apm is disabled.


lastly that pic where you have ibt running is not ibt avx. ibtavx pushes newer cpus much harder and you may not be stable.


everything else looks ok. but again untill you feel comfortable ocing your cpu. and you know your cpu.

i highly recommend not fsb ocing and just use the multi

There are things in this field that doesn't need strict guidelines. FSB OC vs. Multi only is a choice of the OC'er. Not yours. As to recommendation, you have your techniques that yield you the most acceptable results. That's it. The possibilities in this chips are endless. Some can do very well using just the multi. Others can't. I am one of those who owns a weird chip. The hech can't even be stable at 4.7 using the multi with everything left at stock. RAM, CPU-NB, HT link, you name it except the voltages.

But doing FSB OC, I was able to break higher clocks up to the limit of my cooler. Is that bad? No.

Take your time to listen to others as not everyone got the same chip as yours.

No one would be comfortable with their chips if you'll not let them do what they want to learn.

They are asking questions not just because they don't the answer but to get opinions as well.
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not at all i would not try yell at anyone for helping. however he just argues with me. he wont even try in the 83xx thread however. in which he would be told he is wrong. whhat he fails to understamd is i have been here alot longer. pushed several chips much farther then most and proved it. and help alot more people with ocing 83xx chips sucessfully. and across several boards (esp as i own 4 different boards)

Just because you do, doesn't mean you know them all.

And quote, I never argued. I am saying my own experience. If that is already an argument, then I don't know what this is.

So to stop all these, you say what you wanna say, people has the right to listen and not to listen to any advice. But the point is, I am trying to help. If that doesn't coincide with your idea, why don't you just reply on your own without quoting someone telling them they are wrong?

And yeah, P.S. I have never said anything bad on any of your recommendation. You can always look back to the start of your so-called argument.
Edited by mus1mus - 4/19/14 at 2:09am
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Some of the things you say remind me of another person.

With that said. I never said for him not to fsb oc. I said he needs to learn to swim in the shallow end before jumping into the deep end. I then gave him guide lines on how to proceed on either method.
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Originally Posted by Mega Man View Post

Some of the things you say remind me of another person.

With that said. I never said for him not to fsb oc. I said he needs to learn to swim in the shallow end before jumping into the deep end. I then gave him guide lines on how to proceed on either method.

Look man, with all the respect you deserve, there are just things you might not have experienced. But the things I said that contradict yours doesn't mean to show you, you are wrong. Those are just possibilities. No offense on anything.

Heck what, I listen to your advice as there is respect. cheers.gif

On the technique on teaching, I just let the kids do what they want within the control I can give. If they comes back crying for their mistakes, I make sure to let them remember not to do those thing again.
Innate to human nature is the curiousness to learn what's unknown to them. So I let them discover those things and let them decide what to do with all the guidance that I can give.
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