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Poll Results: whats your choice for 990fx

Poll expired: Jul 11, 2011  
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    Asus M5A97evo
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    Asus M5A99Xevo
  • 49% (58)
    Asus Sabertooth 990fx
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post #7001 of 10159
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Originally Posted by cpmee View Post

Well, up it some more. You should be able to do 2600 - 2700 on the CPU/NB which is more performance (increased cache performance). HT Link speed (bandwidth to the 990 NB) you can do crazy numbers like 3900 mhz, but not hardly any performance gain over 2600 unless using a high end triple gpu type setup.

2600-2700 might be where the performance is, but there's also a difficulty stabilizing a CPU-NB past 2600. biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

I should say, if you can mix it up with FSB and Multi, 2500 to <2600 on CPU-NB is where the sweetspot lies. Not too hard to stabilize with big improvement gains.
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Originally Posted by SwishaMane View Post

BSOD after windows logon @ 2650Mhz. Im not too worried about it tho. biggrin.gif

I reset fsb to 200 x 23 and kept them both at 2600mhz, and it seems pretty stable so far.

You will need more Vcore and more Voltages to tweak when mixing up FSB and Multi OC., But pretty much not a hassle on these boards. 2600 is pretty achievable with ease when using a saberkitty..
post #7002 of 10159
finally home on wifi and can answer you, sorry for the delayed response but i was not gonna do this on my phone
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Originally Posted by Mega Man View Post

Having helped as many people as I have and having used 3 different chips across 4 boards all able to. I highly doubt that. But hey it is overclocking.

I would need bios screens voltage (all) digi (all) and cpu settings (all, meaning the multis and things not power saving) to help out. Are your vrms cooled actively?

Here ya go, Yes my VRM's are actively cooled with a downward pushing fan on the top of my case. Notice the auto voltage for the CPU/NB is 1.45V Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Shut off turbo, all spread spectrums and dcop. manually enter all ram settings ( volts, main 4-5 timings, and speed. )
adj ram voltage up a notch or two as it looks to be 1.65v ram and it is coming up short
adj nb ( NOT cpu/nb ) to 1.2-1.25
cpu/nb llc to high,

set ALL current capabilities to 130%
cpu power duty control to current ( or w.e. the other option is idr off my head )
ALL power response controls to highest setting

and cpu/nb to 1.2-1.3 gonna have to test this. you may need more but i have yet to see one that did at the level of ram you are using

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. i keep my main chip at 2700 and my secondary @ 2600. the 2600 has substantially less scores.

That makes it sound like it would show some kind of noticeable improvement and not just for a benchie.

Although your ram is much faster than mine, and maybe that's where my improvement would not be so substantial. I believe that's what you're saying here.

Basically, keeping my CPU/NB stock is likely not to have a noticeable difference than if I improve my CPU/NB clock speeds, unless I'm benching for better scores. Real world difference won't matter with my setup. (6350, 1600 RAM) However with faster RAM speeds, (such as 2400 in your case) CPU/NB speeds will show a pretty good increase with a CPU/NB overclock, and maybe even something that is real world noticeable. It is dependent on your RAM and how fast you're running it in the first place. Just trying to echo what you're saying in different words to make sure it's coming across to me correctly.

more or less. you want it more then your ram speed for best results. so at your speeds you may see a small increase in benches but not in RL even at mine i dont see huge gains in RL just in benches with such high cpu/nb
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Originally Posted by Recursion View Post

What does it mean fsb is mobo to cpu and ht is cpu to the rest? isn't fsb bidirectional and why 2 transportation?
what i am saying it is the speed that the cpu connects to the mobo. again this is laymens terms, for cpu speeds you multiplay fsb by ( your multiplier ) where "your multiplier" is HT, CPU/NB, CPU clock multi, ram multi, ect
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Originally Posted by Mega Man View Post

no FSB is NOT HT

FSB is front-side bus ( which is an often used incorrect term for amd. but meh it works ) and is the speed between the board and the cpu. this is actually HyperTransport™ Reference Clock

Lol.. I don't know how you can say that HT (hyper transport) is not FSB when your explaination points into it.

There is a big difference between HT and HT Link. So you might as well look at my post and your explanation before pointing into it as wrong.

Anyway, that explanation should clear a lot of misconceptions between the two.

You just pointed out to the wrong person.
because no one here talks like that, when they say "ht" they mean ht link. when they say fsb they mean HTRC
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Originally Posted by Recursion View Post

You can also oc with a third-party tool. I prefer Amd turion control It's open source but the latest release is a bit old.

i will take bios over any program any time i can
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Originally Posted by SwishaMane View Post

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)






Rig is pretty solid right now. See anything weird?
turn off turbo, stop matching cpu/nb and HT ( my opinion at least leave them at stock so you are not gimping your pc) as this was helpful on BD but not vishara !
dont overvolt SB you wont see any gains

again ONLY if you actively cool your vrms ( fan or watercooled VRMS )

CPU power phase control to extreme
set ALL current capabilities to 130%
cpu power duty control to current ( or w.e. the other option is idr off my head )
ALL power response controls to highest setting
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Originally Posted by mus1mus View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by cpmee View Post

Well, up it some more. You should be able to do 2600 - 2700 on the CPU/NB which is more performance (increased cache performance). HT Link speed (bandwidth to the 990 NB) you can do crazy numbers like 3900 mhz, but not hardly any performance gain over 2600 unless using a high end triple gpu type setup.

2600-2700 might be where the performance is, but there's also a difficulty stabilizing a CPU-NB past 2600. biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif
chip dependance i did not have any issues on mine
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>Megaman: i will take bios over any program any time i can
You can do a lot more with programs p-states, bulldozer conditionier, htc status, etc. I used it for oc but the original intentation is another. AMD overdrive is nice but a bit buggy, so I prefer Turion Power Control it's free but a bit old. Maybe I make my own when I have time and I know how to program the msr. It's not so difficult.
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post #7004 of 10159
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because no one here talks like that, when they say "ht" they mean ht link. when they say fsb they mean HTRC

Well, I'm not one of them. You can argue some more but I never referenced HT for HT Link.

To put it into context,

"One Hundred" obviously wouldn't mean "One Hundred Dollar" is it? So HT without the LINK is not HT LINK. if that ain't clear enough, IDK anymore.
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chip dependance i did not have any issues on mine

So if your CPU heats up a lot with added CPU-NB Voltage and MINE does not, isn't that Chip dependent as well? IIRC you're insisting on not adding CPU-NB Voltage just because yours heat up a lot with it. Where's the consistency?
post #7005 of 10159
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finally home on wifi and can answer you, sorry for the delayed response but i was not gonna do this on my phone
Shut off turbo, all spread spectrums and dcop. manually enter all ram settings ( volts, main 4-5 timings, and speed. )
adj ram voltage up a notch or two as it looks to be 1.65v ram and it is coming up short
adj nb ( NOT cpu/nb ) to 1.2-1.25
cpu/nb llc to high,

set ALL current capabilities to 130%
cpu power duty control to current ( or w.e. the other option is idr off my head )
ALL power response controls to highest setting

and cpu/nb to 1.2-1.3 gonna have to test this. you may need more but i have yet to see one that did at the level of ram you are using

more or less. you want it more then your ram speed for best results. so at your speeds you may see a small increase in benches but not in RL even at mine i dont see huge gains in RL just in benches with such high cpu/nb
what i am saying it is the speed that the cpu connects to the mobo. again this is laymens terms, for cpu speeds you multiplay fsb by ( your multiplier ) where "your multiplier" is HT, CPU/NB, CPU clock multi, ram multi, ect
because no one here talks like that, when they say "ht" they mean ht link. when they say fsb they mean HTRC
i will take bios over any program any time i can
turn off turbo, stop matching cpu/nb and HT ( my opinion at least leave them at stock so you are not gimping your pc) as this was helpful on BD but not vishara !
dont overvolt SB you wont see any gains

again ONLY if you actively cool your vrms ( fan or watercooled VRMS )

CPU power phase control to extreme
set ALL current capabilities to 130%
cpu power duty control to current ( or w.e. the other option is idr off my head )
ALL power response controls to highest setting
chip dependance i did not have any issues on mine

Winsat now says 22.1GB/s but heres the odd part every other memory benchmark says 28.9GB/s which one do i believe?
Edited by philhalo66 - 4/24/14 at 9:14am
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Winsat now says 22.1GB/s but heres the odd part every other memory benchmark says 28.9GB/s which one do i believe?

Just different scoring algorithms..

Just note them so your keeping yourself on track doing all these.
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turn off turbo, stop matching cpu/nb and HT ( my opinion at least leave them at stock so you are not gimping your pc) as this was helpful on BD but not vishara !
dont overvolt SB you wont see any gains

again ONLY if you actively cool your vrms ( fan or watercooled VRMS )

CPU power phase control to extreme
set ALL current capabilities to 130%
cpu power duty control to current ( or w.e. the other option is idr off my head )
ALL power response controls to highest setting
chip dependance i did not have any issues on mine

Cool. I'll look into this.
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Just different scoring algorithms..

Just note them so your keeping yourself on track doing all these.

Oh yeah that makes sense to me.
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Just different scoring algorithms..

Just note them so your keeping yourself on track doing all these.

Oh yeah that makes sense to me.
just dont use maxxmem so off it isnt even funny personally i use adia64 but it comes at a price ( not free ) now that i have time and bandwidth here are some photos (Click to show)

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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
OCZ Agility 3 120GB  Seagate Barracuda 1TB  Segate Barracuda 3TB Rosewill RCR-IM5001 USB2.0 75 in 1 internal Car... 
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Pioneer BDR-208DBK Blu-ray Writer Swiftech H20-220 EDGE HD Liquid Cooling Kit Swiftech Komodo 7970 Swiftech MCP-35X2 
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Swiftech MCP35X2 Heat Sink Swiftech MCP35X Reservoir Swiftech Komodo 7970 Swiftech Komodo 7970 
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Alphacool 240mm XT45 Alphacool 120mm XT45 Alphacool 120mm UT60 FrozenQ PC Mods UV Meteor Light Limited Edition... 
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Koolance Radiator Mounting Bracket with Quick-R... Swiftech Komodo 7970 Windows 7 Windows 8  
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ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms  ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms  ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms  XFX FXTRISTAND Triple Display Monitor Stand  
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G510 XFX pro 1250w black edition Caselabs MAGNUM M8 Case Razer Naga 
AudioAudioOther
Sony 2.1 Razer Megalodon XFX pro 1250w black edition 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
8350 batch 1229 pgn  Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z gigabyte 7770 OC gigabyte 7770 OC 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
F3-2400C10D-16GTX OCZ agaility 3 120  OCZ Agility 3 120gb  Seagate 7200rpm 1tb 
Optical DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
Pioneer BDR-208DBK Rosewill RCR-IM5001 USB2.0 75 in 1 internal Car... Swiftech MCP-35X White Top Swiftech Quiet Power 240  
CoolingOSOSMonitor
Swiftech Apogee HD Windows 7 Windows 8 LG E2242 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG E2242 RAZER Black Lycosa Mirror Special Edition Seasonic x660 Cooler Master Storm Stryker 
Mouse
Razer Lachesis 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX 6100 Sabertooth 990fx R2.0 XFX 7770 Core Edition Samsung 1600 2x4 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 1600 2x4 Unknown as of now  Piorneer BDR-208DBK Swiftech H220  
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8  Samsung 60" 120hz 3d LED TV Unknown Seasonic x750 
CaseMouseAudio
Cooler Master Storm Stryker Unknown Pioneer 5.1 
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USS CLM8-1701
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Her Venom
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Lil Tough Guy
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD FX-8350 Gigabyte 990FXA-UD7 R7970-2PMD3GD5/OC  R7970-2PMD3GD5/OC  
GraphicsGraphicsRAMHard Drive
R7970-2PMD3GD5/OC  R7970-2PMD3GD5/OC  F3-2400C10D-16GTX  OCZ Agility 3 120GB  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
OCZ Agility 3 120GB  Seagate Barracuda 1TB  Segate Barracuda 3TB Rosewill RCR-IM5001 USB2.0 75 in 1 internal Car... 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Pioneer BDR-208DBK Blu-ray Writer Swiftech H20-220 EDGE HD Liquid Cooling Kit Swiftech Komodo 7970 Swiftech MCP-35X2 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Swiftech MCP35X2 Heat Sink Swiftech MCP35X Reservoir Swiftech Komodo 7970 Swiftech Komodo 7970 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Alphacool 240mm XT45 Alphacool 120mm XT45 Alphacool 120mm UT60 FrozenQ PC Mods UV Meteor Light Limited Edition... 
CoolingCoolingOSOS
Koolance Radiator Mounting Bracket with Quick-R... Swiftech Komodo 7970 Windows 7 Windows 8  
MonitorMonitorMonitorMonitor
ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms  ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms  ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms  XFX FXTRISTAND Triple Display Monitor Stand  
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G510 XFX pro 1250w black edition Caselabs MAGNUM M8 Case Razer Naga 
AudioAudioOther
Sony 2.1 Razer Megalodon XFX pro 1250w black edition 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
8350 batch 1229 pgn  Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z gigabyte 7770 OC gigabyte 7770 OC 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
F3-2400C10D-16GTX OCZ agaility 3 120  OCZ Agility 3 120gb  Seagate 7200rpm 1tb 
Optical DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
Pioneer BDR-208DBK Rosewill RCR-IM5001 USB2.0 75 in 1 internal Car... Swiftech MCP-35X White Top Swiftech Quiet Power 240  
CoolingOSOSMonitor
Swiftech Apogee HD Windows 7 Windows 8 LG E2242 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG E2242 RAZER Black Lycosa Mirror Special Edition Seasonic x660 Cooler Master Storm Stryker 
Mouse
Razer Lachesis 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX 6100 Sabertooth 990fx R2.0 XFX 7770 Core Edition Samsung 1600 2x4 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 1600 2x4 Unknown as of now  Piorneer BDR-208DBK Swiftech H220  
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Windows 8  Samsung 60" 120hz 3d LED TV Unknown Seasonic x750 
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so i went ahead and bought aida64 and this was my result
Tha Beast!
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Intel Core i7 4770K 4.4Ghz 1.25V ASUS Z87 Sabertooth EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 iCX 2126/11GHz 16GB DDR3 2400Mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Kingston 480GB SSD HGST 2TB Corsair H100i Windows 10 Home 64-bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
AOC I2269VW-B 22" Razer BlackWidow Ultimate 2014 Corsair HX650 Corsair Vengance C70 Gunmetal 
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Razer Deathadder 2013 Razer goliathus Sound Blaster X-FI Xtreme Audio PCIe 
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Tha Beast!
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Intel Core i7 4770K 4.4Ghz 1.25V ASUS Z87 Sabertooth EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 iCX 2126/11GHz 16GB DDR3 2400Mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Kingston 480GB SSD HGST 2TB Corsair H100i Windows 10 Home 64-bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
AOC I2269VW-B 22" Razer BlackWidow Ultimate 2014 Corsair HX650 Corsair Vengance C70 Gunmetal 
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Razer Deathadder 2013 Razer goliathus Sound Blaster X-FI Xtreme Audio PCIe 
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