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Poll Results: whats your choice for 990fx

Poll expired: Jul 11, 2011  
  • 0% (1)
    Asus M5A97evo
  • 0% (1)
    Asus M5A99Xevo
  • 49% (58)
    Asus Sabertooth 990fx
  • 31% (37)
    Asus Crosshair V Formula / Thunderbolt
  • 0% (1)
    Biostar TA-990FXE
  • 12% (15)
    Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD7
  • 4% (5)
    MSI 990FXA-GD80
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post #7111 of 10135
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Arrgh..

Your results won't apply to everyone. Especially with users using octa cores.

Mobo is well capable of higher clocks and voltages. Even with 8 cores.

Thought you're really up with something.. But quad cores and this board will never give you issues at those clocks and voltages..

Uhm... What? I gaved an advice on a alternate VRM cooling, and along with the advice, I included my progression... What is your point? :s

And if I go get a 8core CPU, automatical, you just cant mount a fan on the VRM's heatsinks as my little advice. Is that what you're saying?...
    
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Uhm... What? I gaved an advice on a alternate VRM cooling, and along with the advice, I included my progression... What is your point? :s

And if I go get a 8core CPU, automatical, you just cant mount a fan on the VRM's heatsinks as my little advice. Is that what you're saying?...

Nope, the board will be working as awesome in your case even without giving those VRMs additional cooling. And at 4.4, I'm saying you won't even face VRM issues TBH. You'd rather have your CPU cooling limit before the VRM as for that low clock..

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post #7113 of 10135
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Nope, the board will be working as awesome in your case even without giving those VRMs additional cooling. And at 4.4, I'm saying you won't even face VRM issues TBH. You'd rather have your CPU cooling limit before the VRM as for that low clock..

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Wow... I dont know, maybe its just me but jeez u are cocky or somethng... My CPU temps are absolutely fine. ~50degrees celsius in prime95. And TBH, I wasnt at 4.4GHz.... I was at 4.6GHz.

General question,
I tryed to get 4.7GHz, but the pc went really really slow, and crashes in a few seconds if I launch any program. No BSOD or something, the system just hungs... The screen is still on, but its freezed. Any direction of cause?

And in BIOS, The cpu voltage value went yellow when I increased it abit.. What does that mean?
    
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post #7114 of 10135
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Wow... I dont know, maybe its just me but jeez u are cocky or somethng... My CPU temps are absolutely fine. ~50degrees celsius in prime95. And TBH, I wasnt at 4.4GHz.... I was at 4.6GHz.

lol..

4.6 with a quad core, on a Saberkitty? hit 50s?

I won't call that progress babe. heart.gif

at 4.6, 8320, 1.44 volts, Saberkitty, VRM can't hit 60 degrees, Cores can't hit 60s degrees all these done on AIR, with 30+ Ambients.

So yeah, I'm cocky. biggrin.gif
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General question,
I tryed to get 4.7GHz, but the pc went really really slow, and crashes in a few seconds if I launch any program. No BSOD or something, the system just hungs... The screen is still on, but its freezed. Any direction of cause?

And in BIOS, The cpu voltage value went yellow when I increased it abit.. What does that mean?

Not enough Voltage.
post #7115 of 10135
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lol..

4.6 with a quad core, on a Saberkitty? hit 50s?

I won't call that progress babe. heart.gif

at 4.6, 8320, 1.44 volts, Saberkitty, VRM can't hit 60 degrees, Cores can't hit 60s degrees all these done on AIR, with 30+ Ambients.

So yeah, I'm cocky. biggrin.gif
Not enough Voltage.

I hate to say this, but I guess you know your thing, haha... But according to Thermal Radar, it was at 60celsius in prime95 without the fan. Now it's 30ish with the fan in full speed.
YES! It is progress got damnit tongue.gif From 3.8 to 4.7GHz tongue.gif Tho, I havent managed to get it stable in P95 longer than 10minutes xD I returned BIOS to default now, gonna restart the whole process..

And what?? Not enough Voltage, wow... That's crazy, but maybe its right... Tho, I had 1.46vcore in 4.7.. Should I bump the voltage even more? The values are getting yellow in BIOS tongue.gif

And btw, when I say VRM, I mean my VCORE1 sensor, but it is VRM practically. And btw, I have a FX-4300, not 8320.
    
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post #7116 of 10135
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I hate to say this, but I guess you know your thing, haha... But according to Thermal Radar, it was at 60celsius in prime95 without the fan. Now it's 30ish with the fan in full speed.

How'd you managed to run your system without the fans turning?? LOL

but I wouldn't trust it reading 30 on the cores. Nope. AMD doesn't have physical sensors on the cores. They generate Temp values by algorithm that proves to be accurate once nearing their limits. 50s and up..
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YES! It is progress got damnit tongue.gif From 3.8 to 4.7GHz tongue.gif Tho, I havent managed to get it stable in P95 longer than 10minutes xD I returned BIOS to default now, gonna restart the whole process..

And what?? Not enough Voltage, wow... That's crazy, but maybe its right... Tho, I had 1.46vcore in 4.7.. Should I bump the voltage even more? The values are getting yellow in BIOS tongue.gif

Voltage wall happens around 4.7 and up. Meaning, You'll need more Vcore to jump by a certain amount of Frequency than you need on lower clocks.
For example: I can get around up to 4.6 by adding just a tiny bit of Vcore. (+0.050 from stock) But requires +0.100 to get to 4.7 and worse, +0.200 to 4.8. And above that is a Hillclimb on the voltages.
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And btw, when I say VRM, I mean my VCORE1 sensor, but it is VRM practically. And btw, I have a FX-4300, not 8320.

Yes, you are right on Vcore-1 as the VRM temps.

I know, you mentioned 4300 biggrin.gif

I gotta admit though, though your 4300 wont give the VRMs proper workouts, keeping them cool by a fan will always be a plus thumb.gif
post #7117 of 10135
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How'd you managed to run your system without the fans turning?? LOL

but I wouldn't trust it reading 30 on the cores. Nope. AMD doesn't have physical sensors on the cores. They generate Temp values by algorithm that proves to be accurate once nearing their limits. 50s and up..
Voltage wall happens around 4.7 and up. Meaning, You'll need more Vcore to jump by a certain amount of Frequency than you need on lower clocks.
For example: I can get around up to 4.6 by adding just a tiny bit of Vcore. (+0.050 from stock) But requires +0.100 to get to 4.7 and worse, +0.200 to 4.8. And above that is a Hillclimb on the voltages.
Yes, you are right on Vcore-1 as the VRM temps.

I know, you mentioned 4300 biggrin.gif

I gotta admit though, though your 4300 wont give the VRMs proper workouts, keeping them cool by a fan will always be a plus thumb.gif
Ok, thanks for your help. My first through about you was like "What an *******, keep on bragging" hahaha. But that opinion has changed to the positive now biggrin.gif
So, ima go for it.

About core sensor, the AMD core sensors are ****, completely ****crap****. They say all my cores are 8celsius, lol. So I only monitor my temps with Thermal Radar from now on. I've checked HWMonitor and SpeedFan, and all gives the same values on temperatures. And afterall, Thermal Radar is from ASUS, specifically available for my MoBo, so I think it know the sensors and temps. I did not mention any core temps. The picture provides all my sensors, and readouts. I can also check fan RPM and voltages.

When I said without fans, then I meant all extra fans. Like, all fans except the CPU cooler and the PSU fan. So in my case, I have 2 extra case fans. Or well.. 3, but that one is MOLEX connected, hahah.

I do know that my VRM's temps, or actually, ALL components temps wasnt in the line of danger. But why not you know.. Keep everything nice n cool ^^ And this is only a thought, but I guess that the CPU temp, might be the socket temp, I dno... Or maybe they're just measuring one core, like the core#1 or something... Haha, im just brainstorming.

Okok, to the real deal. Ima reset BIOS now, disable every single "power saving modes" and ****, and get on with it. 5GHz, here I come. Do I need to change NB or SB voltages? Do I need to change anything except multiplyer, VCORE, CPU VDDA etc?... I cant remember everything, been up all night trying to get my OC stable..

Well, ima go do the Bulldozer 5GHz guide/recommended settings! smile.gif Cya in abit

Oh, and that picture is taken with all my extra fans turned off. "VRM fan and front chassi fan off"
    
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post #7118 of 10135
@Alanthor you are either really young or really new to the game.

either way. amd "sensors" do not exist and are actually VERY accurate, under load.

they DO NOT have any "sensors". first it is a thermistor, to which you are talking about.

second. amd uses a algorithm that is INACCURATE at idle, and becomes more actuate the more the cpu is underload, basic rule of thumb, if core shows under 30, use socket, over 30 use core. and i would dump thermal radar asap ( it only shows socket ) and use hwinfo. as it will show both
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@Alanthor you are either really young or really new to the game.

either way. amd "sensors" do not exist and are actually VERY accurate, under load.

they DO NOT have any "sensors". first it is a thermistor, to which you are talking about.

second. amd uses a algorithm that is INACCURATE at idle, and becomes more actuate the more the cpu is underload, basic rule of thumb, if core shows under 30, use socket, over 30 use core. and i would dump thermal radar asap ( it only shows socket ) and use hwinfo. as it will show both

Fine... I have now updated my BIOS to the latest version. I come back soon after I've been into BIOS.

Btw, hahaha. I made my own DirectKey button, its awesome, hahaha biggrin.gif

For the notice.. I am 20 years old, swedish, and yea... Pretty new to OCing. But I aint new to computers and hardware/software in general.. I cant compare to you guys, but with the peeps i am with, im the PC god for them, lol.

BRb, BIOS time
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I wonder if you can get up to 5GHz on a 212 even with a 4300..

But who knows?..
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