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post #8791 of 10135
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Air flow starved you reckon?

What's the air optimisation on your case?

In a note though, my CPU at 1.58V would heat up to 50+C. So yeah. And I would check the block - CPU mount just for assurance. thumb.gif

Air is optimised pretty well, 2 fans in the front as intake, 1 fan at the back intaking and 3 fans on top as exhaust, I generally run my fans on the triple rad a little quicker but not my much than the intake fans due to the high fpi of the triple. I just think it's the voltage buddy and ambient temps, our flat gets pretty hot even though we don't have the heating on, because it's a big complex I think we get everyone else's heat.
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post #8792 of 10135
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Air is optimised pretty well, 2 fans in the front as intake, 1 fan at the back intaking and 3 fans on top as exhaust, I generally run my fans on the triple rad a little quicker but not my much than the intake fans due to the high fpi of the triple. I just think it's the voltage buddy and ambient temps, our flat gets pretty hot even though we don't have the heating on, because it's a big complex I think we get everyone else's heat.
I did have gpu issues in the past with extra heat... but I added a small hairdryer fan (not literally, just has a whine to it from the 5000+rpm) and it solved my gpu heating up the case issue... i put it right beside the two gpu's as exhaust... really helped all temps in the case during gaming case temps don't get to 40+ C anymore lol...


right now I've not played any games yet... but since I turned my pc on, cpu usage has hit 70% and temps only hit 32.3C cores and 33C socket... not bad for 5ghz I don't think... oh, and this 5ghz is based on the one I used in the 5ghz 24/7 club that I provided screenies of IBT AVX tests on one of which was on very high.. I've tested it otherwise since then... but don't know if I took screenshots or not.
post #8793 of 10135
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I did have gpu issues in the past with extra heat... but I added a small hairdryer fan (not literally, just has a whine to it from the 5000+rpm) and it solved my gpu heating up the case issue... i put it right beside the two gpu's as exhaust... really helped all temps in the case during gaming case temps don't get to 40+ C anymore lol...


right now I've not played any games yet... but since I turned my pc on, cpu usage has hit 70% and temps only hit 32.3C cores and 33C socket... not bad for 5ghz I don't think... oh, and this 5ghz is based on the one I used in the 5ghz 24/7 club that I provided screenies of IBT AVX tests on one of which was on very high.. I've tested it otherwise since then... but don't know if I took screenshots or not.

Going to put a fan on the floor of my case at some point to push air up but I need to decide if I'm keeping the rear fan as intake or swap it to exhaust or I'll have 4 fans intaking air and 3 exhausting through a rad and that means the air will be pretty positive by a long mile.
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post #8794 of 10135
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Going to put a fan on the floor of my case at some point to push air up but I need to decide if I'm keeping the rear fan as intake or swap it to exhaust or I'll have 4 fans intaking air and 3 exhausting through a rad and that means the air will be pretty positive by a long mile.
no that will make it nearly neutral.... if you say had five intake and two exhaust that would be fairly positive pressure... most people aiming for extreme positive pressure have one exhaust.....i have three exhaust and (edit: 7) intake... but mines still not extremely positive...
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post #8795 of 10135
I would of just configure all rad fans as intake and a single higher rpm fan as exhaust near the IO.

If you don't push-pull, the intake fans actually face much higher restriction due to the rads that air flow past them will be much lower. A single exhaust fan will be more efficient as exhaust due to lesser restriction. thumb.gif

I know someone here is more adept on this one. Being an air cooling advocate himself. thumb.gif
post #8796 of 10135
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I would of just configure all rad fans as intake and a single higher rpm fan as exhaust near the IO.

If you don't push-pull, the intake fans actually face much higher restriction due to the rads that air flow past them will be much lower. A single exhaust fan will be more efficient as exhaust due to lesser restriction. thumb.gif

I know someone here is more adept on this one. Being an air cooling advocate himself. thumb.gif

The front rad isn't restrictive I could put AF fans on there and it would be fine, the exhausts up top however is a different story on my 30mm thick rad. It wouldn't be neutral if I put the floor fan down it would be positive.
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post #8797 of 10135
Case airflow can get really complicated really fast and since no two systems are exactly the same a lot of trial and error testing is needed to find the best solution for THAT case.

In general terms the difference between positive pressure and negative pressure is what kind of air do you want flowing through your case? Positive pressure means you have filtered air and negative pressure means you have some unfiltered air in your case. I vote positive pressure for that reason.

Filtered air means that the intake fans need to be very powerful as filters can reduce air flow by as much as 50%. That is why most people have more intake fans than exhaust fans as you want the overall flow to be the same between intake and exhaust. One way to see what you have is to take off the side panels and look at all the seams and joints. If dust is collecting there you have a negative pressure case.

I know very little about water cooling setups but it seems to me that you would want the radiators to be set up as exhausts. That would have cool intake air flowing over the motherboard components. Let's say that you have a radiator in the front of the case. I don't know how much heat is exchanged by a radiator but I have measured as much as a 7C difference between intake and exhaust air with my radiators. I have also seen a 4C difference in GPU air.

So if you have a radiator in the front of the case and the ambient air is 22C you have 29C air blowing into the case. Add another 4C and you have 33C air inside your case flowing over the ram, North Bridge, CPU, and VRMs. They add a little more heat as well, so it is easy to see why things overheat in there.

Banjiw has a rear intake for a chimney effect and hopefully some cool air blowing on his VRMs.

Vertical air flow seems to be ok for water cooling but is death to air cooling. Air cooling demands horizontal air flow and a clear separation of intake air and GPU exhaust. If 4C warmer GPU exhaust air gets into the intake air stream, then the CPU is going to run 4C hotter. I have seen this first hand. People have gone so far as to put baffles and air dams inside their cases to keep them separate.

Actually the concept of pressure is the wrong way to think about it as there is very little pressure differential inside the case. What is happening is flow. The idea is to direct the air flow where it will do the most good without leaving any pockets of dead hot air. My solution is four intake fans in the front and top front feeding the CPU cooler and then the CPU fans are the exhaust blowing out a big gaping hole in the back of the case. There is no pressure, just flow. I also mount the GPU in the bottom PCIE slot to keep it as far away from the CPU and VRMs as possible.

Hopefully there is something here to help you guys out.
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post #8798 of 10135
What? Positive pressure means nothing about being filtered ....

And vertical or horizontal has nothing to do with Air flow being good or bad. ..


I don't even know what else to say about that post.... wow
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Going to put a fan on the floor of my case at some point to push air up but I need to decide if I'm keeping the rear fan as intake or swap it to exhaust or I'll have 4 fans intaking air and 3 exhausting through a rad and that means the air will be pretty positive by a long mile.
no that will make it nearly neutral.... if you say had five intake and two exhaust that would be fairly positive pressure... most people aiming for extreme positive pressure have one exhaust.....i have three exhaust and (edit: 7) intake... but mines still not extremely positive...

People need to so thinking more fans in makes positive pressure.

The number of fans means nothing.

I can put 20 fans in and 1 out and still have negative pressure.
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What? Positive pressure means nothing about being filtered ....

And vertical or horizontal has nothing to do with Air flow being good or bad. ..


I don't even know what else to say about that post.... wow
People need to so thinking more fans in makes positive pressure.

The number of fans means nothing.

I can put 20 fans in and 1 out and still have negative pressure.
I'd like to see that in a closed case that's not the huge gun cabinet style caselabs you bought smile.gif
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Well, if you choose to not have any filters, then it would make no difference. Your choice. I forgot that there are still people who do not use filters.

For water cooling it makes no difference but for air cooling those that know what they are talking about all say horizontal air flow is best. I studied under the masters, applied their principles, and they do work.

I did that when I first started with this case. I had 5 stock 30cfm case fans behind filters and 1-110cfm exhaust fan and it had negative pressure and quickly filled with dirt. Learned my lesson and now have a positive pressure case that stays pretty clean. The intakes are now 74-110 cfm and there is no case exhaust fan.
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Sennheiser 428 headphones 
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