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Poll Results: whats your choice for 990fx

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post #8901 of 10171
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I'm wont get near 72degrees and for hpc i seem to remember that it does disable some features of power saving which i would not want.

with apm disabled i have constant vcore/cpu clock. but as said i'm not sure about the side effects of apm off ^^

You would want HPC off and APM enabled. Someone said they go hand in hand and one is the reverse of the other.

For LLC, I use Ultra. But my settings are not for power savings. It pushing my boundaries. Though it helps lower my temps a bit.

Where are you on the OC by the way?

For optimum power savings, don't OC the FSB or BCLK. Use the default power saving schemes sans Turbo disabled and Cool and Quiet enabled. Enable thise that are disabled by default except HPC.
post #8902 of 10171
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You would want HPC off and APM enabled. Someone said they go hand in hand and one is the reverse of the other.

For LLC, I use Ultra. But my settings are not for power savings. It pushing my boundaries. Though it helps lower my temps a bit.

Where are you on the OC by the way?

For optimum power savings, don't OC the FSB or BCLK. Use the default power saving schemes sans Turbo disabled and Cool and Quiet enabled. Enable thise that are disabled by default except HPC.

Ah crap I have everything enabled lmao, everything is stable and I can stress test with all the power saving stuff on, my clock drops to 1.4ghz and volts to 1.2v and I've done FSB and multi for my clocks. Urm, did I do the bad thing? biggrin.gif
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post #8903 of 10171
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I wont get near 72degrees and for hpc i seem to remember that it does disable some features of power saving which i would not want.

with apm disabled i have constant vcore/cpu clock. but as said i'm not sure about the side effects of apm off ^^

Hotter socket, higher temps, same as always really, and I've had my socket hit 82c and its running fine, that's only when stress testing however most of the time it just sat at 42c.
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post #8904 of 10171
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You would want HPC off and APM enabled. Someone said they go hand in hand and one is the reverse of the other.

For LLC, I use Ultra. But my settings are not for power savings. It pushing my boundaries. Though it helps lower my temps a bit.

Where are you on the OC by the way?

For optimum power savings, don't OC the FSB or BCLK. Use the default power saving schemes sans Turbo disabled and Cool and Quiet enabled. Enable thise that are disabled by default except HPC.


Ah crap I have everything enabled lmao, everything is stable and I can stress test with all the power saving stuff on, my clock drops to 1.4ghz and volts to 1.2v and I've done FSB and multi for my clocks. Urm, did I do the bad thing? biggrin.gif

You do realize you are not the targeted user on that post right? headscratch.gif
post #8905 of 10171
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You do realize you are not the targeted user on that post right? headscratch.gif

I know this but i'm doing all the things you said not to do, should I turn off HPC mode while using APM or no? smile.gif
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post #8906 of 10171
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I know this but i'm doing all the things you said not to do, should I turn off HPC mode while using APM or no? smile.gif

Then you know that you are no longer a target of easy to do instructions and less complicated settings to tweak. tongue.gif

HPC prevents throttling at a certain temp. APM does that. So they said, turn off one of them if the other is enabled. Or simply just disable APM if you want HPC.
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By the way, mine works with power savings ON with Offset Voltages. Manual Voltages doesn't go to low power.

You might also need to tweak CPU power management in Windows if issues occur due to very low idle clocks and clock states switching.
post #8907 of 10171
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Then you know that you are no longer a target of easy to do instructions and less complicated settings to tweak. tongue.gif

HPC prevents throttling at a certain temp. APM does that. So they said, turn off one of them if the other is enabled. Or simply just disable APM if you want HPC.
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By the way, mine works with power savings ON with Offset Voltages. Manual Voltages doesn't go to low power.

You might also need to tweak CPU power management in Windows if issues occur due to very low idle clocks and clock states switching.

Yeah, I'll look into it a bit more then, as for the power management in windows etc, I'm already ahead of you there, 30% min - 100% max, the issue I was having was with P states and LLC, swapped from Very High to High and everything is fine now.
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post #8908 of 10171
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Yeah, I'll look into it a bit more then, as for the power management in windows etc, I'm already ahead of you there, 30% min - 100% max, the issue I was having was with P states and LLC, swapped from Very High to High and everything is fine now.

It could simply be Voltage. Or not enough of it.

Ultra seems to add 0.025 Volts at load from the Vcore value at idle.

High seems flat out. At load and idle. Wasn't able to use it for a while now.
post #8909 of 10171
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ok i just got this board. first off it really rocks that i can see within the first steps of bios setup, tuning, temps, stability etc.. smile.gif

win10x64home
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990 fx sabertooth r20
1866 hyper x savage @ 2133 cl9

now some questions:

I'm now trying to find the best LLC setup, which means for me LLC not lower and not much higher vcore under load<-> no load

it seems "high" or "ultra high" seem to be the closest to what i want, whats your experience?

i noticed v-drop with apm enabled. is there a way in the more detailed (digi power area) section of the board to have apm enabled and not have those drops? i d like to have the least watt usage as possible with the daily usage. i'm not sure about disabling apm, i know it s meant to keep the cpu wattage within the specs, not possible with 4.6 ghz or higher @1.4xV?!

for my everyday use I have cnq enabled (c6 disabled). what is the apm = auto setting for?

vdda is auto and gives 2.52 ? shouldnt it be 2.55?

is there a must-have setting amongst the special controls, i mean those settings you won't find on cheaper/non asus boards? i did not touch those so far as i would have to do some research first.

thanks for the input smile.gif
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It could simply be Voltage. Or not enough of it.

Ultra seems to add 0.025 Volts at load from the Vcore value at idle.

High seems flat out. At load and idle. Wasn't able to use it for a while now.

Not sure, I gave it more volts and everything, nothing fixed the issue. Simply swapping to High then giving more volts to account for VDroop under load fixed my problem.
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