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post #8911 of 10171
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Originally Posted by Benjiw View Post

Not sure, I gave it more volts and everything, nothing fixed the issue. Simply swapping to High then giving more volts to account for VDroop under load fixed my problem.

You might need to return to it and check the Voltage levels the chip goes into at load and idle.
post #8912 of 10171
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You might need to return to it and check the Voltage levels the chip goes into at load and idle.
Did before to confirm and at the same volts underload it freezes on very high but not high. Not sure what I'm doing wrong?
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post #8913 of 10171
Just do what's working. lol

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Just do what's working. lol

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GAWD, FINE!!!! Why u gotta be so darude.mp3 biggrin.gif
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Coz you are as fun as a conversation as a wall. lachen.gif
post #8916 of 10171
GAWD, FINE!!!! Why u gotta be so darude.mp3:D[/quote]
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Coz you are as fun as a conversation as a wall. lachen.gif

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post #8917 of 10171
You've spent a day thinking about it dontcha? lachen.gif
post #8918 of 10171
ok I've got some questions about adjustments in the digi power area and other possible optimisations.

what i am at is currently

4.6 @1.43V @ llc=high @ 57/67 degrees celsius (core+socket)

without apm and without c6 i get a constant and straight clock + voltage all the time im stressing the cpu (with occt). the rest of energy saving options are enabled. (i would like to enable as much as possible, any suggestions how to use apm and get stable voltage/core clock or doesnt it matter that it jumps around with apm on?)

first off i dont know if my cooler is set up perfectly it's a pain in the ass with 2 very short screws and a loose plate above the cooling unit that presses it down. installing it results in being hardly able to place it correctly before fastening the screws and so it gets pushed and pulled above the cpu/thermal paste... maybe im installing it again with some tricks to place it directly 100% on top, but perhaps it's already not really bad, you can tell me your opinion.

i basically want that 4.6 stable with less vcore. dealing with nb+ht later. i know that might rise temps some more.

how to achieve that? i thought about other tweaks within those bios settings. so far i have not touched much.

what are those settings for:

cpu current capability

cpu power power response control

cpu thermal control

cpu power phase control

and might it be useful to raise cpu vdda (currently 2.52V).


thank you so much for any input smile.gif
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post #8919 of 10171
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You've spent a day thinking about it dontcha? lachen.gif

No been busy at university and only just seen this lmao. thumb.gif
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post #8920 of 10171
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ok I've got some questions about adjustments in the digi power area and other possible optimisations.

what i am at is currently

4.6 @1.43V @ llc=high @ 57/67 degrees celsius (core+socket)

without apm and without c6 i get a constant and straight clock + voltage all the time im stressing the cpu (with occt). the rest of energy saving options are enabled. (i would like to enable as much as possible, any suggestions how to use apm and get stable voltage/core clock or doesnt it matter that it jumps around with apm on?)
see below i will entail what apm does as with most other relevant power savings, in an easy to understand way
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first off i dont know if my cooler is set up perfectly it's a pain in the ass with 2 very short screws and a loose plate above the cooling unit that presses it down. installing it results in being hardly able to place it correctly before fastening the screws and so it gets pushed and pulled above the cpu/thermal paste... maybe im installing it again with some tricks to place it directly 100% on top, but perhaps it's already not really bad, you can tell me your opinion.

i dunno , i dunno what your cooler is - see my sig and how to set up rigbuilder / pu t it in your sig ( i see you have a rig but i will forget it shortly if you put it in your sig it will help everyone help you )
imo that seems high temp for that cooler but i am not a huge air guy so i may be wrong looks like it should be in the ballpark of a d14? what thermal paste are you using and what method are you applying ?? the cooler should be fine sliding around, however you dont want the cooler lifting at all ! when my block slides around it does not make my mount bad
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i basically want that 4.6 stable with less vcore. dealing with nb+ht later. i know that might rise temps some more.

how to achieve that? i thought about other tweaks within those bios settings. so far i have not touched much.
you cant, it takes "x" vcore for "y" speed

there is a rumor that goes around that fsb =less voltage needed and less heat . it is FALSE
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what are those settings for:

cpu current capability

how much current in relation to amds spec the board allows to vcore - i recommend with proper VRM cooling ( for ALL advanced adj below as well !@ !~ which you seem to have with air cooler, i would be more worried with a water cooler about cooling vrms ! )

set to 130-140, reason amps are pulled not pushed.

this setting allows the chip to pull more amps as needed, with as far as i have pushed mine yours will be fine ( still at your own risk as is all ocing !)
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cpu power power response control
my understanding is this is how fast the vrms respond to power changing ( more or less amps/volts ) but i could be wrong, i always set to extreme ( or w.e. the highest setting is ) iirc
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cpu thermal control
idr iirc i leave this at stock
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Originally Posted by MechanimaL View Post

cpu power phase control
how many phases are ready as i understand it -i always set to extreme ( or w.e. the highest setting is ) iirc
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and might it be useful to raise cpu vdda (currently 2.52V).


thank you so much for any input smile.gif
leave this at stock ( 2.5 ) imo

as to the temps what is your cpu/nb volts? you want generally and with few exceptions cpu/nb llc at standard or high ( standard is less heat ) and no more then 1.1+.01v ( stock is 1.1v 1.2 is good esp on air !

as to power saving

Cool n quiet- downclocks cpu freq and downvolts cpu if left in OFFSET vcore mode- if in manual you still downclock cpu but keep the same volts

c1e AND c6 lets cpu enter low power states ( specific states ) Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
http://superuser.com/questions/184569/what-is-c1e-support-on-my-amd-cpu
FOR SOURCES SEE ABOVE LINK PLEASE
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From an AMD Blog:

C1E is a power management state that allows the processor to reduce power beyond just the cores. With C1E, the processor power can be reduced by lowering the memory controller clock speed and halting the HyperTransport™ technology links. This new feature was extremely important for our 12-core processors with the increase in memory channel support as well as the increase in HyperTransport™ technology links within the design.

According to AMD's publicly available BIOS and Kernel Developer's Guide, section 2.4.3.3:

The C1 enhanced state (C1E) is a stop-grant state supported by the processor. The C1E state is characterized by the following properties:

All cores are in the halt (C1) state.
The ACPI-defined P_LVL3 register has been accessed.
The chipset has issued a STPCLK assertion message with the appropriate SMAF for C1E entry. Note that [The ACPI Power State Control Registers] F3x[84:80] specify the processor clocking and voltage behavior in response to the C1E SMAF.
The processor has issued a STOP_GRANT message to the chipset.

General requirements for C1E:

The ACPI-defined C2 and C3 states must not be declared to the operating system.
C1E should only be enabled when the platform is in ACPI power management mode.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-cpu-c-states-power-saving-modes/
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C6 Deep Power Down Reduces the CPU internal voltage to any value, including 0 V 45-nm mobile Core 2 Duo only

apm- this throws most people !

in fx it does 3 things ( on most mobos 2 things )
all mobos i have seen
apm throttles the cpu @ 42c ( iirc but it is between 40-42) core temp and throttles at 72c socket temp!
on some mobos but not most !
throttles based on vrm wattage

HPC makes APM ONLY throttle on socket 72deg ( iirc it also take out the wattage throttling, excluding gigas hard coded throttling for vrms on ud3 )
Edited by Mega Man - 10/20/15 at 7:12pm
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