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Poll Results: whats your choice for 990fx

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post #9441 of 10135
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Originally Posted by tashcz View Post

So VRM design on the CHVZ isn't any better?

The CHVFZ may have a little extra under the hood. But for normal clocks and usage, you can't really differentiate their capabilities.

The CHVFZ may shine under extreme benching sessions. And the addition of the extra 4-pin EPS may prove beneficial.

CHVFZ does have temp sensor headers. But so does the Kitty, IIRC. But the Sabertooth has inline temp sensors for the VRM. Could've been better if the CHvFZ includes one.

Anyway, both are superb.
post #9442 of 10135
Very nice man, and thanks for your time. You've answered a lot of questions.

What I'd like to know is do you really need a fan over northbridge, and how is the heatsink on R3 compared to R2? Bigger, smaller? Can't compare it from pictures and the plastic shround on the R3.

As I can see, you're running it at 4.6GHz@1.47V. That's something I was using earlier, though my frequency was 4.7GHz. Next step if time allows you would be to stress test the system and post temperatures from the new AI Suite 3 if possible, I'd really love to do that. And try it without the fan on the NB wink.gif It would be great if we could see how much the system really gets without any ghetto mods.

Considering 40mm fans, I have quite some experience with them. Best one I have is a xilence one, you need to make sure not to get a cheap no-name one since they basicly just spin around and do nothing. The xilence one does move some air, like 7CFM or so but it's something at least. Other options are like I wanted to do, the Delta ones, but as you've guys said it's impossible to put it there.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1pc-Delta-EFB0412VHD-40x40x20mm-40mm-4020-12V-0-18A-DC-BRUSHLESS-Fan-3pin-wire-/221265674444?ssPageName=ADME:X:EAC:US:1120

If this one could fit anyhow it'd be great... but it's 2CM thick frown.gif
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post #9443 of 10135
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i oriented mine to blow out

i didnt see anywhere about the 10mm fan thickness either and it wasnt until i tried a 15mm fan that i figured it out. there is a set of mounting holes and a small lip under the tuf cover and the fan has to fit between them. you could shave the lip off and use a thicker fan (not sure if there would be any clearance issues at the bottom of the fan/surface of the mobo though


i found there werent many pwm 40mmx10mm fans out there. not sure if the pwm was really necessary but i didnt know if the bios would support fan control for a standard 3pin fan

I figured the notch could also be there for holding the position.. (meaning the fan may have to insert to a specific side) But dunno... Might try to find a fan laying around in the junk..
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post #9444 of 10135
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The CHVFZ may have a little extra under the hood. But for normal clocks and usage, you can't really differentiate their capabilities.

The CHVFZ may shine under extreme benching sessions. And the addition of the extra 4-pin EPS may prove beneficial.

CHVFZ does have temp sensor headers. But so does the Kitty, IIRC. But the Sabertooth has inline temp sensors for the VRM. Could've been better if the CHvFZ includes one.

Anyway, both are superb.

Does 4.8-4.9 count for normal clocks? smile.gif Because that's what I'm trying to achieve, it was possible with the Sabertooth but wondering if the CHVZ would be better.

By the way, how do I get that 3rd 4pin CPU connector, I haven't found a PSU that has it?
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post #9445 of 10135
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Does 4.8-4.9 count for normal clocks? smile.gif Because that's what I'm trying to achieve, it was possible with the Sabertooth but wondering if the CHVZ would be better.

By the way, how do I get that 3rd 4pin CPU connector, I haven't found a PSU that has it?

I've been running 1.6v 5ghz on my sabertooth for years now, my sabertooth is watercooled for silence but still... yes the sabertooth will hit those clocks providing your cooling is up to scratch. When it comes to AMD and the FX range "If you can cool it, you can clock it" thumb.gif

Also because I'm a watercooling sl00t! Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)



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post #9446 of 10135
As a retired pipefitter who spent years bending tubing to the tightest specs one would think I would be all over that pipular stuff. And I've thought about it, using copper pipe and fittings everywhere. But me eyes have gone bad and I can't measure to those tolerances anymore so now it is: fans? What fans?
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As a retired pipefitter who spent years bending tubing to the tightest specs one would think I would be all over that pipular stuff. And I've thought about it, using copper pipe and fittings everywhere. But me eyes have gone bad and I can't measure to those tolerances anymore so now it is: fans? What fans?

In regards to hardline tubing you can buy one of these that does the tolerances for you, or do you mean your eyesight is that bad you can't see pencil marks on a tube when cutting?

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I mean I can't see the tiniest lines on the rulers and I used to work inside of those lines. The thickness of the line from a well sharpened pencil was too thick and I would choose which side of it to cut on. Being off by 1/124th of an inch would get you reamed by the foreman. But when the client walked by and saw the work they always smiled.

BTW, copper kills mold and fungus and stuff. Drop a few pennies into the water tank of your toilet and see the difference.
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I mean I can't see the tiniest lines on the rulers and I used to work inside of those lines. The thickness of the line from a well sharpened pencil was too thick and I would choose which side of it to cut on. Being off by 1/124th of an inch would get you reamed by the foreman. But when the client walked by and saw the work they always smiled.

BTW, copper kills mold and fungus and stuff. Drop a few pennies into the water tank of your toilet and see the difference.

Corrodes though, put vinegar into a copper rad and see what comes out. Any who, can you not get the old eyes seen to?
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Very nice man, and thanks for your time. You've answered a lot of questions.

What I'd like to know is do you really need a fan over northbridge, and how is the heatsink on R3 compared to R2? Bigger, smaller? Can't compare it from pictures and the plastic shround on the R3.

As I can see, you're running it at 4.6GHz@1.47V. That's something I was using earlier, though my frequency was 4.7GHz. Next step if time allows you would be to stress test the system and post temperatures from the new AI Suite 3 if possible, I'd really love to do that. And try it without the fan on the NB wink.gif It would be great if we could see how much the system really gets without any ghetto mods.

Considering 40mm fans, I have quite some experience with them. Best one I have is a xilence one, you need to make sure not to get a cheap no-name one since they basicly just spin around and do nothing. The xilence one does move some air, like 7CFM or so but it's something at least. Other options are like I wanted to do, the Delta ones, but as you've guys said it's impossible to put it there.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1pc-Delta-EFB0412VHD-40x40x20mm-40mm-4020-12V-0-18A-DC-BRUSHLESS-Fan-3pin-wire-/221265674444?ssPageName=ADME:X:EAC:US:1120

If this one could fit anyhow it'd be great... but it's 2CM thick frown.gif

It really depends on your overclock. If you are aiming for 4.8-5GHz i would recommend an additional fan on the NB due tot he high voltage the VRM's have to endure.
Its not about pure clock speeds with these things tho, i discovered that overclocking the CPU/NB will noticeably improve system response and it gives an healthy extra points in benchmarks like Firestrike.

The heatsink on the R3.0 is smaller than on the R2.0 but its doing an fantastic job so far, i am pushing 1.5vcore and 1.35V though my CPU/NB and the vrm's are mostly sitting around 30-35c and under heavy load they can spike up to 50c. The fan on the back side of the socket really helps lowering temps, it helps better than just adding fans blowing on the vrm heat sink itself to be honest. The best config IMO is an extra 40mm fan in the plastic shroud of the vrm and one 120mm blowing on the back side of the socket. OR you can put an water block on it. Its because the last one is too expensive for me but otherwise i would love to water cool my CPU and motherboard..

The fans i consider to buy are the Noctua NF-A4 x10 FLX, Noiseblocker NB black silent XM2.
I seen several very nice 40mm fans that possibly fit in the plastic shroud of the vrm, i have to make up my mind which one i want to go for.
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