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Poll Results: whats your choice for 990fx

Poll expired: Jul 11, 2011  
  • 0% (1)
    Asus M5A97evo
  • 0% (1)
    Asus M5A99Xevo
  • 49% (58)
    Asus Sabertooth 990fx
  • 31% (37)
    Asus Crosshair V Formula / Thunderbolt
  • 0% (1)
    Biostar TA-990FXE
  • 12% (15)
    Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD7
  • 4% (5)
    MSI 990FXA-GD80
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post #9471 of 10159
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Originally Posted by tashcz View Post

Okay guys, sorry to go offtopic but here's the deal. I'm making the choice today. Aura 970 for 110EUR or Sabertooth R3.0 for 220EUR.

How much would I lose if I go to Aura? I'm aiming for 4.7GHz that I achieved on the old Sabertooth R2.0 easily. I use a GTX970.

And can I OC NB on the 970 series or its just good for 990fx?

Thanks a bunch, your comments of comparison are welcome.

I been trying to find bad reviews of this 970 board but i cant find any worthwhile lol

heres a review by Flank3r his post is on LN2 but if you scroll down he does a nice little review of this board

If you just want this for gaming and a nice little overclock i would get this over the sabertooth just for the sake of saving quite a bit of money(damn did i just say that buttkick.gif)

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I been trying to find bad reviews of this 970 board but i cant find any worthwhile lol

heres a review by Flank3r his post is on LN2 but if you scroll down he does a nice little review of this board

If you just want this for gaming and a nice little overclock i would get this over the sabertooth just for the sake of saving quite a bit of money(damn did i just say that buttkick.gif)

sli is only x8x8


Yeah, thats what I'm up to do, from tasks that are going to put my 8320 to the max it's only the games that are gonna do that. I've read that review multiple times (I get crazy when I can't decide between two things) and seems like I can't find anything bad about it either.

SLI won't be an issue since I'm using a GTX970 and game on 1080p. By the time my appetite grows I'll probably get an upgrade to AM4 or go Intel, who knows. But this setup (OC'd 8320 and a GTX970) should be enough for at least a year more.

I'll be trying to aim 4.7GHz with the Aura. One thing I'll be missing most is the VRM temp sensor but what the heck, I'll use a IR thermometer.

I'm planning on not installing the IO shield and putting 2x40mm there as an exhaust, just next to the VRM heatsink. Think it will do a good job. As much info as I gathered on Aura's mosfets, it should be able to provide 400W at 1.5V to the CPU if the VRM's are at 80C, with it's 7 phases. I think I'll manage to get my 4.7GHz.

Thing is, I really don't wanna spend 200EUR on some extra options that I mostly won't use. The VRM temps will interest me as much as I do the testing but once I get the setup done, I won't look at them any more. It does look shinier than the Aura, but is it worth an extra 100EUR for that one VRM phase? Not sure in my case. And I might see a 2-3% performance increase between the two if I get 100MHz less than I would with the Sabertooth.

One thing I would like to ask, does 4.7GHz on a 970 chipset perform as well as 4.7GHz on a 990FX? It might be an odd question, but I'm not sure if there might be a bottleneck somewhere on the northbridge/chipset that would affect performance. I really don't think I need 990FX if it doesn't "add" performance to the system, as a chipset itself.
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One thing I would like to ask, does 4.7GHz on a 970 chipset perform as well as 4.7GHz on a 990FX?

There might be a memory penalty in synthetic benchmarks, maybe due to the lower HT.

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/asus_970_pro_gaming_aura_review,11.html

I don't have time to dig further, i just saw this once and remembered it.
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Yeah, thats what I'm up to do, from tasks that are going to put my 8320 to the max it's only the games that are gonna do that. I've read that review multiple times (I get crazy when I can't decide between two things) and seems like I can't find anything bad about it either.

SLI won't be an issue since I'm using a GTX970 and game on 1080p. By the time my appetite grows I'll probably get an upgrade to AM4 or go Intel, who knows. But this setup (OC'd 8320 and a GTX970) should be enough for at least a year more.

I'll be trying to aim 4.7GHz with the Aura. One thing I'll be missing most is the VRM temp sensor but what the heck, I'll use a IR thermometer.

I'm planning on not installing the IO shield and putting 2x40mm there as an exhaust, just next to the VRM heatsink. Think it will do a good job. As much info as I gathered on Aura's mosfets, it should be able to provide 400W at 1.5V to the CPU if the VRM's are at 80C, with it's 7 phases. I think I'll manage to get my 4.7GHz.

Thing is, I really don't wanna spend 200EUR on some extra options that I mostly won't use. The VRM temps will interest me as much as I do the testing but once I get the setup done, I won't look at them any more. It does look shinier than the Aura, but is it worth an extra 100EUR for that one VRM phase? Not sure in my case. And I might see a 2-3% performance increase between the two if I get 100MHz less than I would with the Sabertooth.

One thing I would like to ask, does 4.7GHz on a 970 chipset perform as well as 4.7GHz on a 990FX? It might be an odd question, but I'm not sure if there might be a bottleneck somewhere on the northbridge/chipset that would affect performance. I really don't think I need 990FX if it doesn't "add" performance to the system, as a chipset itself
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not sure if you already seen this review but ill post it anyway, not sure how accurate it is though but its worth a read
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Yeah, people just don't "get" how to build an AMD rig. You start with the case and work your way in because the CPU is the least important part. The PSU and motherboard are much more important. Then comes cooling as it doesn't make sense to go AMD if one doesn't OC it and that brings it right back to the case and its fans.

Then take the money saved by going with the less expensive CPU and put it into a better video card. I accidentally stayed up all night playing The Witcher 3 and somewhere in there i took this screenie.

Guess where my bottleneck is?

Yes, i see the GPU is 100%... Yes, i agree with the concept of building gaming PC. I do the opposite, but i also start from the case. Normally i buy a case without front and top mesh, but with side fans. The top mesh is the worst, because it pushes the noise out of the case and to your ears. This time i did buy a case with front mesh for the main rig, but it's limited to the bottom. I didn't have much choice, cause i wanted side fans and 3 5.25 bays. Then, the next step is to overclock undervolted to the last stock FX clock (4Ghz). This way, you get a Cool N Quiet PC, that is more than powerful (for my needs) and it is also kept reasonably silent. People ***** about how bad, obsolete, ancient etc, the FX is, but for me, it was a blessing.

My 8320 celebrated its 2th birthday this month (i have the 6300 longer than that) and i bought it 2 years ago 120 EUR. Today,at 4Ghz, in x264 it performs like a stock i5 6600K, which costs 220 EUR. biggrin.gif If you count the 8300 i have for spare, i bought 2 CPUs at the price of one 6600k almost. Which makes the encoding a trivial business, because i now have a dedicated rig for that, so on the main PC i only encode sporadically, if i want something faster. biggrin.gif So, in my case, not overclocking (well, i do, but 4Ghz is stock 8350, so...) does make sense too and in Skyrim, i get 60 fps at 98% of the time. In a future upgrade, when there will be a considerably more powerful 60W GPU, i will be 60 fps 100% of the time.

With motherboard and PSU i go cheap and in quantities, since 4Ghz doesn't put much stress and even if something burns, i can replace it at the spot. Works fine and i actually have still to have something fail. (although i wish the worst to my Gigabyte board). biggrin.gif

But yes, for a gamer, your concept makes more sense.
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There might be a memory penalty in synthetic benchmarks, maybe due to the lower HT.

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/asus_970_pro_gaming_aura_review,11.html

I don't have time to dig further, i just saw this once and remembered it.
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not sure if you already seen this review but ill post it anyway, not sure how accurate it is though but its worth a read

Thank you guys for your time and work, appreciate it. I've ordered the Aura since none of the local shops had it in stock today, I'm getting it tomorrow, hope to install it during the day. I will thank you all with your advices with a little review of the board and compare it to the Sabertooth R2.0 I owned before it died and the DS3P I'm using currently, so we'll see where it fits between a very low budget board and what used to be the 2nd best board on the market, or maybe the best one for the AM3+ platform. I know how my chip handled those boards so it will be pretty accurate. Fingers crossed and I hope to see a near Sabertooth performance level from it.
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Thank you guys for your time and work, appreciate it. I've ordered the Aura since none of the local shops had it in stock today, I'm getting it tomorrow, hope to install it during the day. I will thank you all with your advices with a little review of the board and compare it to the Sabertooth R2.0 I owned before it died and the DS3P I'm using currently, so we'll see where it fits between a very low budget board and what used to be the 2nd best board on the market, or maybe the best one for the AM3+ platform. I know how my chip handled those boards so it will be pretty accurate. Fingers crossed and I hope to see a near Sabertooth performance level from it.

Most people report that they arrive to 4.5Ghz without any particular effort. I read reviews on my local Amazon too and there was a guy that hit 4.6Ghz on the Aura, without mentioning extra cooling. So let's say you get 4.5Ghz instead of the desired 4.7Ghz. Big deal! Are 200Mhz going to make or break a game? I don't think so. And like you say, later you will either go Zen or Intel. So is it worth to give 100 EUR more for 200Mhz? For me, definitely not. And particularly, not in this time, where the AM3+ goes EOL and you intend to jump to another platform in the forseable future. If you planned to stay on AM3+ for like 4 years, well, maybe i could understand it. Well, for me it would still be wasted money, but i could understand if someone is hardcore and wants the 5 year warranty that comes with the Sabertooth. Personally i 'd rather buy 2 Aura than 1 Sabertooth, but i have my own quirks when it comes to that.

Enjoy the motherboard, i don't think there is anything wrong with it. At the very least you should get 4.5Ghz. That's a respectable clock for running a PC and doing your everyday stuff. I found on my modest 4Ghz, that on desktop snappiness, removing the antivirus is the best performance boost. The antivirus slows down all mundane operations. By a LOT.

This is the best performance score in av.test.org and the industry average, even for high end PCs, is 20% or more slowdown:



https://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/home-windows/windows-7/august-2016/bitdefender-internet-security-2016-163191/

Even an SSD won't save you from the plague that is the antivirus. They hook at the kernel, the monitor the APIs, they create cache, scan your internet, your SSD is constantly working for your antivirus...
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If you have the money go Sabertooth R3.0 you won't be disappointed.

you might get away with the same overclock on the 970 aura but for everyday usage i would recommend the Sabertooth over anything.

It has longer warranty, better audio, M.2 slot basically the same as the aura only its better.

hey hurricane....how is the audio working for you? i usually install a sound card, but was thinking about just using the onboard this time around. not an audiophile by any means, but even i could hear the difference with bad onboard sound the previous times i tried the onboard.
    
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hey hurricane....how is the audio working for you? i usually install a sound card, but was thinking about just using the onboard this time around. not an audiophile by any means, but even i could hear the difference with bad onboard sound the previous times i tried the onboard.

Hey man.

Well i must say that i am very impressed by the audio chip of my Sabertooth R3.0 compared to all my other boards. This board uses the ALC1150 instead of the ALC898 on the R2.0 and the difference is dramatically.
Sound is clear and sharp. I have Logitech Z-2300 connected to it and it sounds great. I also have ATH-M50x noise cancelling headphone and it also sounds very well on this chip. Volume is also very good.

All with all, its an very decent audio chip and probably one of the best on board solutions out there, i think you are going to like it. I am sort of an audiophile and if i like it you like it too as you said you are no audiophile yourself.
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good to hear. last one i tried was the AL889 on my gigabyte ud5...not impressed to say the least
    
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evga 480gtx corsair vengence ddr3 1600 ocz agility 3 sdd ocz agility 3 sdd 
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maxtor hdd asus blu-ray reader/burner xspc ex360 rad (x2)  swiftec mcp655 pump w/bitspower pump kit and v2... 
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laing d5 pump w/bitspower pump kit and v2 pump top heatkiller cpu block koolance nv480gtx full vga blocks ek northbridge block 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
lamptron fc5 bitspower 150 black ice reservoir vista ultimate 64 bit asus s248h-p hdmi led 
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acer x183h acer x183h corsair k60 mechanical silverstone strider 1000 silver 
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