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post #9551 of 10159
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Another thing I remember is the max socket temp of 62c on continuous use? Even though most of us go away with under 70.

61.1c to be precise for 125W TDP and 57c for 220W TDP. 95W an lower can go up to 70c. Frequency scaling decreases after 50c and stops completely after 62c
post #9552 of 10159
we in the visheras thread go by:

- 70C is the maximum recommended temp for the CPU Core temp reading.
- 1.55v is the maximum recommended voltage.
- Stock HyperTransport speed is 2600Mhz.
- Stock NorthBridge speed is 2200Mhz
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That 70C number comes from AMD Overdrive doesn't it?

I know that 1.55v and 70C is a no no. At 1.524v when mine hits 70C it destabilizes and starts spitting out memory errors. Sometimes it does it at 68C too.
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post #9554 of 10159
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That 70C number comes from AMD Overdrive doesn't it?

I know that 1.55v and 70C is a no no. At 1.524v when mine hits 70C it destabilizes and starts spitting out memory errors. Sometimes it does it at 68C too.

I cant remember where it came from its been awhile now, so forgive my memory im getting old
i know it was thoroughly researched if you search through 6000+ pages im sure youll find it biggrin.gif
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post #9555 of 10159
One question to clarify my knowledge of LLC: For, lets say. 5GHz, I need to have the same voltage at load and while idle, and it should not lower itself or get it higher than set? No undervolting is possible if I don't clock it down using power options?

What I mean is, I can't use extreme LLC like "cool n quiet" or stuff like that, to pull up my volts only while under load?
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post #9556 of 10159
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One question to clarify my knowledge of LLC: For, lets say. 5GHz, I need to have the same voltage at load and while idle, and it should not lower itself or get it higher than set? No undervolting is possible if I don't clock it down using power options?

What I mean is, I can't use extreme LLC like "cool n quiet" or stuff like that, to pull up my volts only while under load?

in my experience the best llc is the one that results in as little voltage change as possible... I've never used the extreme setting as it will overvolt severely under load... I'm using 1 step over high... I think on this board it's called ultra high... been a while since I've been in the bios on this board lol... kinda got it to 5ghz and just left it...
post #9557 of 10159
Well on Aura it seems to suck. On ultra high I boot up with 1.572V and under load I drop to 1.548V, now and there bumping to 1.56V. If I set it to extreme, I'm going to get lets say, 1.524V on boot and 1.56-1.572V on load. So seems like they should give us better control over that. I can't get those 1.56V I need under load without 1.572V without load. FFS.
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post #9558 of 10159
on ultra high mine gains a little voltage like 10mv under load... but on high it will lose 20mv or so... so I opted for ultra high.... each board is different and I imagine the cpu type affects it as well... you just have to poke about and find the setting that works for you.... just be careful... you don't want extreme voltage swings... they can be bad for pc health.
post #9559 of 10159
I went from "lowering voltage under load" to "pushing more volts when under load" again, since it felt painful to see 1.572V when the PC was idleing. We'll see how it goes. Probably my chip degraded from all the stuff I did. Now I'm usually getting +15 or +20 mV when under load, but I still wonder if the idle vcore can keep the system stable. That's something only time can tell now. I'ma give it a day or two like this and if it passes, enable the power saving options.

For a second I was like... hell, I'm going to get the 8370E and get this stuff working again with a better binned chip... but man, old tech can really make you spend more money than you would on new stuff.
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post #9560 of 10159
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Thanks man.

I get all your words, but I just feel IBT is too much. Really hard to get it stable and requires much more voltage than Burn In Test I was using. One hour of CPU and RAM stress testing usually did the job - even though it's not as fast as IBT but while using a 630W PSU and a OC'd 8320 with a GTX970, it wouldn't be normal for the CPU to pull 500W and the GPU to pull 200W since I'd get over the max current the PSU can give. IBT is really weird and stresses much more than needed I think. Never had an issue with a burn in test stable system.

Anyway, are you saying that LLC should just keep a constant voltage and not up it under load? Since I was using it to up my voltage under full load to maintain stability, like from 1.52 to 1.56.

And I'm thinking of swapping my 8320 for a 8320E or 8370E since I'm needing 1.560V now for stability on 4.7GHz, on Aura. Used to be 1.47V or 1.50V on Sabertooth as I remember.

Anything over 1.475V exceeds the operating limits of Vishera (32nm SHP SOI) and will cause permanent damage/degredation to the chip. This can range from reduced lifespan to lower maximum overclock to inability to remain stable at stock speed. Power consumption is also insane at over 1.4V so pushing that far doesn't really make any sense and is a contributing reason to why we are seeing AM3+ motherboard failures after 2-3 years of operating at increased voltages and clockspeeds.

LLC should be set to a value where it doesn't increase voltage during load while keeping VDROOP minimal. On previous Asus motherboards the second highest setting was usually best.

Yea.... no.
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Anything over 1.475V exceeds the operating limits of Vishera (32nm SHP SOI) and will cause permanent damage/degredation to the chip. This can range from reduced lifespan to lower maximum overclock to inability to remain stable at stock speed. Power consumption is also insane at over 1.4V so pushing that far doesn't really make any sense and is a contributing reason to why we are seeing AM3+ motherboard failures after 2-3 years of operating at increased voltages and clockspeeds.

LLC should be set to a value where it doesn't increase voltage during load while keeping VDROOP minimal. On previous Asus motherboards the second highest setting was usually best.
I'll leave it to the experts to chime in, but in my experience these chips are beasts... 1.55v is the stated recommended limit from AMD last I checked.... mine defaults to over 1.45 @ base clocks and peaks out to 1.5 @ turbo clocks 9590... this is based on measurements not vid.

edit: taken from vishera owners thread...

General Information:

- 70C is the maximum recommended temp for the CPU Core temp reading.
- 1.55v is the maximum recommended voltage.
- Stock HyperTransport speed is 2600Mhz.
- Stock NorthBridge speed is 2200Mhz.
Iirc it is 1.5v but meh. Some push 1.7v and I push 1.65 on one of mine without issue
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Well on Aura it seems to suck. On ultra high I boot up with 1.572V and under load I drop to 1.548V, now and there bumping to 1.56V. If I set it to extreme, I'm going to get lets say, 1.524V on boot and 1.56-1.572V on load. So seems like they should give us better control over that. I can't get those 1.56V I need under load without 1.572V without load. FFS.

I really doubt it. You are dealing with a new board you need to learn it.

If you are not stable die to 0.005v you have issues.

If you would like some help please show us some bios screens.

If I can push 1.8v on suicide runs and not kill it and trip on core temp. Several times. You will be fine. (This is on water) i am one of few who did degrade his chip, 1.65 (iirc) though cpu/nb..... no Bueno
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