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Originally Posted by Eddy_EK View Post
Please stay with the facts. Running distilled water and Silver coil is not the same as distilled water only. Combination distilled water and silver coil makes water electrolyte. Quotation from page 16: "However, when any type of ion is dissolved in deionized water, it becomes conductive and thus serves as the electrolyte."
Quotation from page 15 that explains silver ions dissolving into distilled water: "Silver ions which are dissolved from the coil are extremely..."
A full quote from the report thankyou:
"Silver ions which are dissolved from the coil are extremely toxic for bacteria and algae, and thus are also efficient in a very small concentration (silver metal is practically insoluble). "

You shouldn't be able to get enough silver ions into water as to cause such a dramatic result.
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A full quote from the report thankyou:
"Silver ions which are dissolved from the coil are extremely toxic for bacteria and algae, and thus are also efficient in a very small concentration (silver metal is practically insoluble). "

You shouldn't be able to get enough silver ions into water as to cause such a dramatic result.
+1

The amount of silver ions in the water is in the PARTS PER MILLION.

I also highly doubt that that little silver could do so much damage to the nickel plating.
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If EK really didn't give crap about their customers none of this would even be happening, they would have not run the test, they would have not stated that they are still trying to test, no RMA's would be in effect.

Although there are some flaws in how EK went about this whole issue, I would not go to the extent and say that EK doesn't give a damn about their customers. After all we are what will make them money and they should and IMO will cater to our needs...in time hopefully.
Well I hope you are correct about EK catering to the customers needs, but I disagree with you that they care about their customers. Maybe in the broadest sense of the idea do they care about their customers. Meaning that they only care when their "customers" are not buying their products or when potential customers come across enthusiasts sites like this and find thread after thread of "*** is up with my EK block", "EK - nickel plating flaking", etc.

I am fully prepared to accuse EK of not caring about their customers. The overall sense I get from EK is that they only performed this so-called "independent" testing for damage control purposes. They did it to save face, but it seems like in the end they only did themselves more harm due to the incompleteness of the testing.

I really don't see how Eddy can release an official statement with an actual expiration date for turning in blocks when he admits himself that the testing is not fully completed

I run only distilled water in my loop and I change it out every 1-2 months to avoid algae growth. What happens if my mobo block (which has been installed for 3 months) begins to show signs of wear after 7/31????
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Care to explain to me why no other company has this issue, and also why this has only started to happen recently within the last few months.

People who have had your blocks for a long time haven't complained about this, so why are the people who have been getting nickel plated blocks recently having this issue?

I'm sure there are plenty of people with silver kill coils and distilled that don't have this problem, so what is their water supply somehow better than another persons?
I have asked this and other people on other forums have, it has never been answered. Any reason why?
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I took apart my loop this past weekend to clean and inspect it, and didn't notice any corrosion to my EK Supreme Acetal/Nickel. Looked the same as when I installed it (back in January). Distilled water + silver coil. Granted I didn't inspect it under a microscope, but some of these images I've seen of damage are discernible with the eye only. I have been replacing the water monthly though, so that probably kept the ions down.
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I took apart my loop this past weekend to clean and inspect it, and didn't notice any corrosion to my EK Supreme Acetal/Nickel. Looked the same as when I installed it (back in January). Distilled water + silver coil. Granted I didn't inspect it under a microscope, but some of these images I've seen of damage are discernible with the eye only. I have been replacing the water monthly though, so that probably kept the ions down.
Sounds like you got lucky with your parts. Mine had visible corrosion marks after 10 days of Distilled only!
 
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so that probably kept the ions down.
Those god damn ions!
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I took apart my loop this past weekend to clean and inspect it, and didn't notice any corrosion to my EK Supreme Acetal/Nickel. Looked the same as when I installed it (back in January). Distilled water + silver coil. Granted I didn't inspect it under a microscope, but some of these images I've seen of damage are discernible with the eye only. I have been replacing the water monthly though, so that probably kept the ions down.
Which goes to show it's not the fluid as every EK nickel plated block would have it so let them explain why it's not only no other company but also not all EK blocks, which leads to the conclusion bad batch or new bloke on the QA line got behind so threw any old blocks in to boxes to catch up
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This sux, very bad for EK.
Hoppe I didnt get that ****ed up nickl blok on my cpu block..will se in few days..
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Okay Eddy, lets say that your hypothesis is correct.

Care to explain to me why no other company has this issue, and also why this has only started to happen recently within the last few months.

People who have had your blocks for a long time haven't complained about this, so why are the people who have been getting nickel plated blocks recently having this issue?

I'm sure there are plenty of people with silver kill coils and distilled that don't have this problem, so what is their water supply somehow better than another persons?
He is hiding behind the "they are not our blocks so we dont care about them" story. I doubt he will test other blocks and blow his "report"
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