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Lets see what the RR-tech guys will find
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Lets see what the RR-tech guys will find
exactly..

we need more information to go anywhere.

But i can tell you, if its bad copper, this is going to be a suicide PR move from EK.

If its good copper, then i and a lot of people will be offically appologizing to EK.

But the results are there, and im pretty much sure a lot of problems which we saw with EK can be answered by Tainted copper.
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exactly..

we need more information to go anywhere.

But i can tell you, if its bad copper, this is going to be a suicide PR move from EK.

If its good copper, then i and a lot of people will be offically appologizing to EK.

But the results are there, and im pretty much sure a lot of problems which we saw with EK can be answered by Tainted copper.
I'm holding my reservations about copper because the exposed copper looks in great shape, nothing to suggest that its being eaten away. The nickel needs another valid 3rd party analysis. I was not content with their "findings".
post #494 of 691
if there was some issue with the copper wouldn't there also be an issue with the plain copper blocks I would assume they would make some plated and some plain during the manufacturing
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if there was some issue with the copper wouldn't there also be an issue with the plain copper blocks I would assume they would make some plated and some plain during the manufacturing
no i can get really skeptical on this area..

This is all purely skeptical remake from me here.

But EK figured if they nickle plated tainted copper, we would never find out.
The performance between to the two would also be very small that could be explained by plating of copper.

However if they assumed everything would be fine with the plating, it would be golden, and no one would of found out.

But the plating failed... and worse off, we see corrosion which couldn't happen to normal copper.



As i said this is purely skeptical... so dont take it as fact... but in short, i feel EK got caught.
Hence why all pure copper products dont suffer the same result as the plated products.
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if there was some issue with the copper wouldn't there also be an issue with the plain copper blocks I would assume they would make some plated and some plain during the manufacturing
This,

The copper/plexi are the least expensive ones so I'm sure they've sold quite a few. I've ran older 48xx series gpu blocks and a Supreme LT in copper for a few months with no issue other than tarnish on the "dry" surfaces, which is typical of copper.

At the same, would we see patina kicking in before copper disintegration?
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This,

The copper/plexi are the least expensive ones so I'm sure they've sold quite a few. I've ran older 48xx series gpu blocks and a Supreme LT in copper for a few months with no issue other than tarnish on the "dry" surfaces, which is typical of copper.

At the same, would we see patina kicking in before copper disintegration?
ignoring all the science behind it.. and going into pure observation.

I can show u a ton of picture samples where guys were running koolance blocks with EK blocks.

The koolance nickle is perfect... the EK nickle shows flaking or worse, something else.

If EK was OK in every regards as they say, there should be no nickle safe.
But Field testing has showed this is BS.

This is why we are pissed.
They tried to make it almost sound like all nickle is bad, and there blocks are fine.
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But EK figured if they nickle plated tainted copper, we would never find out.
The performance between to the two would also be very small that could be explained by plating of copper.

on the flip side he company who manufacture an plate for EK (if they don't do it themselves) could of done the same so EK wouldn't know gives them deniability



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Couple of things here.

First RRRT is not an ad-driven site. Red pays for it out of his own pocket, therefore he makes the rules. He has freedom of speech and can say anything he wants, any time. I don't necessarily agree with certain things around the site, but it's not for me to tell Red about it, it's his site, his money, and he can do whatever he wants and I respect that.

Second, the tests that they're performing are going two-fold. To test the copper, and to test the plating. What EK did was take a faulty, RMA'd block and asked the lab to confirm if the solutions used (distilled/kill coil) are affecting the block. Well, of course it would considering the nickel was already eaten away and there was no laquer to protect the copper. The tests EK had performed were already biased and in their favor, and not objective in the least.

Third, even though I don't own any EK hardware (thankfully this was all found out before I spent over 1K on my loop), but I will be contributing toward the cost of the test. I feel it's an important endevour to find out the truth about what's really happening here, for the best interest of every WC enthusiast in our community.
post #500 of 691
Its well established that EK nickel is as good as doggy turds. Koolance is actually my first recommendation for nickel blocks.
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