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We know the exact mutation that causes the cure. Conducting gene therapy in order to give people that gene is still beyond our abilities. Gene therapy research is a very controversial topic. There were a few sloppy experiments done that resulted in a young man getting killed in gene therapy research a few years ago and it was almost banned.

Gene therapy essentially involves modifying a virus to infect a persons body but instead of inserting its own viral genome into the host it inserts the desired modified DNA.



Not really... Treatments are much more profitable than cures. Thats why most drug companies research treatments. With a treatment you keep taking (and purchasing) a medicine day after day after day. With a cure you do it and you are done... Where is the money in that?

And that's ****ED up.
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post #12 of 25
^^^
They can be pretty harsh - but I think that the elevated risk levels probably stem from the fact that people that have bone marrow transplants are high risk to start with, and that any kind of procedure might end up with a bad outcome.

Really, if one is riddled with HIV and suffers from pretty much any germ that happens by, the 30-50% "risk" is better than the 100% "certainty" that arises from AIDS itself.

Of course, this can mean something, because what is a big, risky procedure that is hard to do today - is something that will end up being easy-peasy in the future. Just like Smallpox, which went from the hit and miss usage of Cowpox as a vaccine - to the entire wordwide eradication of that disease.
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Are bone marrow transplants really that fatal? The hospital I work for does them all the time, but I work in IT for said hospital. I know three people that have had them for cancer treatment reasons. I didn't think it was anymore risky then say a kidney transplant. Ouch...a minimum of 3 in 10 die from it though?
It completely depends on the type of transplant. I think the type used for this treatment is especially difficult. I'm pretty sure they have to destroy virtually all of his original marrow. When dealing with cancer I would think that only the marrow producing cancerous cells would need to be eliminated.

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Of course, this can mean something, because what is a big, risky procedure that is hard to do today - is something that will end up being easy-peasy in the future. Just like Smallpox, which went from the hit and miss usage of Cowpox as a vaccine - to the entire wordwide eradication of that disease.
I don't think there will ever be a vaccine for HIV. HIV mutates too fast for your body to mount a antibody defense against it. Smallpox is essentially the best case scenario and easiest thing to vaccinate against. The reason we don't see dozens more vaccines as effective as the smallpox vaccine is because it really isn't anywhere near that easy for most viruses.

The nice thing is that there is a very easy way not to get HIV in the first place. Use condoms and don't use IV drugs. That's pretty much it...
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sounds like a MLP episode

"Their friendship has conquered every obstacle in their illness ridden lives.

Their incredible friendship has brought a sparkle of hope to our world, that's for sure."
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post #15 of 25
I know a doctor that had bone marrow removed.. once he had been through a taste of what he was asking his patients to experience, he vowed to never perform any procedure involving removal or sampling of bone marrow tissue. From what I hear, that pain is unequivocal to ANY kind of pain..
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I know a doctor that had bone marrow removed.. once he had been through a taste of what he was asking his patients to experience, he vowed to never perform any procedure involving removal or sampling of bone marrow tissue. From what I hear, that pain is unequivocal to ANY kind of pain..
They have to pierce your bones with a device that looks torturous. It's basically a giant needle, attached to a syringe, that they insert into your bone to suck out the marrow.


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^^ Which is normally at the end of your spinal cord, I think.
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Mmmm bone marrow, I like spreading it on toast.
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Not really... Treatments are much more profitable than cures. Thats why most drug companies research treatments. With a treatment you keep taking (and purchasing) a medicine day after day after day. With a cure you do it and you are done... Where is the money in that?
True. Think about it... when was the last time they made a cure? Polio, black plague... and they did this with wooden microscopes, lol ..well you get the point. We have far more advance tech now. Treatments are more profitable for drug companies which is why they research treatments not cures.

This whole Folding@Home business is looking like a big joke to some.
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The nice thing is that there is a very easy way not to get HIV in the first place. Use condoms and don't use IV drugs. That's pretty much it...
AND what do you say for the thousands of children born with it everyday?
    
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