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Hey everyone! Long time lurker. My old rig's PSU went belly up and took my old mobo with it. Rather than order some replacement board for my old Core 2 Duo I decided to just upgrade most of my components. I am trying to keep it under $700 while trying to leave some room for future upgrades.

Games Played
WoW
SC2
Mass Effect 1/2
Dragon Age
Portal 2

In addition, I use Adobe Creative Suite fairly often for recreational use. I don't see myself needing to encode hours and hours of footage on a daily basis.

My immediate goal is to make sure I can handle all the game I play pretty much flawlessly.

Processor
Intel Core i5-2500K $209.99 - Newegg

Mobo
GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD4-B3 $189.99 ($169.99 w/Rebate) - Tiger Direct

PSU
CORSAIR TX750 V2 750W $109.99 ($99.99 w/Rebate) - Newegg

Memory
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) $84.99 - Newegg

CPU Cooler
Cooler Master Hyper 212+



GPU
I plan on using my current 9800 GTX until I have a larger budget

HDD
I am going to continue using my 1TB WD Caviar Black drive until my budget allows for a SSD.

Subtotal - $624.47
S/H - $4.89
Total - $629.36 (w/Rebate $599.36)

Budget - $700

I tried to do as much research as I could before making a decision. I opted for the Z68 chipset since I do plan on using a SSD in conjunction with a mechanical drive. The i5 seemed liked the better idea as well since it is about $100 cheaper and the performance is comparable in games in relation to the i7 (from what I have seen posted.)

Some questions:

Is the RAM a solid choice? Would I be better off will a lower frequency and better timings for gaming? I am a noob when it comes to memory.

I plan on OC'ing the i5 to about 4.5Ghz. Would the Hyper 212+ be a better choice from a price/performance standpoint or should I just stick with the Noctura?

Would the UD4 be a solid board for this or are there better or more cost effective options? I am not sure if I am overdoing it with the UD4.

I would appreciate any feedback that is offered.
Edited by Solarin - 6/7/11 at 8:54am
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post #2 of 14
Great Build. That RAM should be fine. The Hyper 212+ is a great cooler, you may get better temps with the Noctuna. Maybe. But 4.5Ghz should be attainable with the Hyper212+. Mobo I do not know about. GPU. Definatley upgrade soon. If you could squeak out a little more cash theres a seller here in the marketplace selling 2x EVGA GTS450 for $80 a piece or $150 for both. While not the biggest upgrade from your current its still an upgrade and should handle your games listed fairly decent.
Edited by Erick Silver - 6/6/11 at 12:40pm
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Do you have a MicroCenter near you? They have the I5-2500k for 189.99$ which is a great price.
For the psu, this is a better choice than the TX650.
Ram looks okay though I doubt you need 2133mhz...This kit is good for the price. It's cheap and timmings are right. Voltage is low also.
Also, why would you need a z68 board? P67 does the job right and is much cheaper... For wow, the 9800gt will be alright, but if I were buying this pc, I'd invest less on the ram/mobo/cpu cooler and get a better gfx card. for the other games and for the future.

Here's what I'd get (full build):
I5-2500k off Microcenter 189.99$
ECS P67 mobo Newegg 99.99$
Mushkin Blackline 1600 9-9-9-27 1.5v off Newegg 45.99$
Hyper 212+ off Bestbuy 29.99$
Seasonic SCII 620w off newegg 84.99$
MSI GTX560Ti off newegg 197.99$
Total is just below 650$, better build for gaming if you ask me.

Good luck!

EDIT**:Just saw you use Adobe suite CS5, you might wanna get the 8gb ram I linked instead of the mushkin then.
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As others have said, I would lower the RAM down to 6GB, because you really don't need anymore than that. Use the money saved to buy a better graphics card. Otherwise, everything looks good.
    
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I am seriously appreciating the feedback.

It is becoming more obvious that I should cut costs on the CPU cooler and go with the cheaper hyper 212+ to leave some money for a gpu upgrade. A few degrees difference won't be as significant as upgrading my video card.

I am gathering that the clock speed of the memory is not as important as the timings? Is 8-8-8-24 the optimal setting?
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Originally Posted by AquaKool View Post
As others have said, I would lower the RAM down to 6GB, because you really don't need anymore than that. Use the money saved to buy a better graphics card. Otherwise, everything looks good.
6GB? That's triple channel unless you mix the RAM kits in an odd way to get it to be dual-channel. Sandybridge supports only dual-channel, so a dual-channel kit is what to look at....4GB (2x2GB) or 8GB (2x4GB).


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I am seriously appreciating the feedback.

It is becoming more obvious that I should cut costs on the CPU cooler and go with the cheaper hyper 212+ to leave some money for a gpu upgrade. A few degrees difference won't be as significant as upgrading my video card.

I am gathering that the clock speed of the memory is not as important as the timings? Is 8-8-8-24 the optimal setting?
I find even timings hardly make much of a difference. I use DDR3 1600 Ripjaws with CAS9 timings and I can get my chip over 5.0GHz if my voltages were more comforting to me and if I got a better cooler. RAM is not really much part of the equation with these chips so long as it's DDR3 1333 or better RAM with decent heatspreaders. Get the capacity that you can afford.

Decent RAM:
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)

Best budget cooler:



OCing ability with Sandybridge rests mostly on the chip. Some will overclock much better than others, so you just gotta hope you get a good one. What takes my chip 1.34V for 4.6GHz can take someone else's chip only 1.30V...or even worse, 1.375V+. As long as you get a decent P67 or Z68 motherboard, pretty much all of the boards have the same OCing potential. However, I do not like the ECS brand board suggestion earlier....they are known to cheap out on components.
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Originally Posted by Solarin View Post
I am seriously appreciating the feedback.

It is becoming more obvious that I should cut costs on the CPU cooler and go with the cheaper hyper 212+ to leave some money for a gpu upgrade. A few degrees difference won't be as significant as upgrading my video card.

I am gathering that the clock speed of the memory is not as important as the timings? Is 8-8-8-24 the optimal setting?
The lowest you can buy for 1600mhz is 7-8-7-24, but I've seen some peeps overclock those down to 6-8-6-24@1653mhz. Tighter timmings on slower ram usually compete with faster clock speed but lower timmings while being a lot cheaper. All in all, the results are the same but you save some $$ if you buy slower with tighter timmings.
For the cpu cooler, the Hyper 212+ does a good job. The NH-D14 will be barely better at idle and less than 5 degrees better at load temps (in celcius). For 50$ less, it's a no brainer.

And yes you're better off getting a gpu upgrade. Check the links I've posted on my previous post, good deals and great value.

EDIT**: Actually, if you want a better warranty but less cooling, you should get this one instead. It's the same model, but it has a 10 year warranty and the stock reference cooler instead of a dual fan (not Twin-Frozor) cooler.
Edited by polm - 6/6/11 at 3:12pm
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post #8 of 14
With the savings you get on the lower ram, the cheaper cooler (there's a 15% discount on scythe products somewhere) and if you get a microcenter i5 2500k combo (or a comboo on newegg w/ mobo) you can probably get your GPU quicker.
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Looks good, for adobe when you save up for a GPU something like the 460/560 would work fine, if you are more into gaming maybe a 570 or 580.
Once you get the SSD switching all your boot material from the HDD to the SSD may cause you some pain, if I were you I would start my build already having the SSD.
    
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this is what you call a budget
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