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No whats sad is that COD a series I hate actually gets the animation right, and Battlefield the end all series for me gets it wrong. Its pathetic.

BF2 actually has the animations right... Seems a bit of Bad Company has rubbed off here.

Ya its just a game Kand but if you want to use that argument lets just replace all the weapons with nerf guns cause its just a game right????
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There's a difference between asking for this to be fixed and "whiny nitpicking." I'm as excited for this game as anyone else, that doesn't mean it's 100% perfect.

By the same token, one could say you're "whiny nitpicking" on MW3 because you point out there are no "bullets" in the magazine. It's only a game, right?
I agree. Since Battlefield is a game about immersive realistic warfare, correct animations should definitely be one of the first things on their list when developing a sequel, especially since most of the prequels didn´t get it right either.

With that said, the game looks absolutely stunning, realistic reload animations or not.
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The bullet may be there but the animation is incorrect. Like on BFBC2 you can run the gun dry and he just inserts a new mag... you would have to hit the bolt release at minimum. It would actually be better if they used the charging handle to get that first round in battery. It will the give the bolt more forward spring pressure if you use the charging handle due to the fact you pull it back farther than it just being held on the release.

So, if you reload and the gun is dry you can either use the bolt release or the charging handle. If it still has a round in the chamber you can just insert a fresh magazine.

I hate to say it but being a Firearms Instructor, fail reload animations are a pet peave.
I can't speak for all weapons, but on the M16 the charging handle doesn't even work with the bolt locked back. It won't add pressure or anything else, it can only be used if the bolt is forward. Now it's possible that if you fire your weapon dry and send the bolt home on accident (usually if you drop your weapon or knock it against something) you'll need to re-rack the charging handle, but most experienced weapon users will probably try to avoid a mistake like that.

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All I'm hearing is whiny nitpicking. So it's not true to the real thing. That's what makes it a game. =P

If you want a simulation, I suggest you go play some Tom Clancy. Oh wait, that franchise isn't nearly as well maintained, is it?
Shaving precious time off a reload because you were smart enough to not fire your last round isn't nitpicking, it's essential. It's meant the difference between living and dying more times in Call of Duty 4 than a quantum computer could count for me. Watching a shoddy reload animation with extra bits that don't make sense is beyond griping about missing textures, it's griping about a fundamental gameplay tactic that is not present.
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post #94 of 199
If the health meter is true, and regen is absent, I'll consider the game, still unsure about the limited 4 classes and lack of commander..
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post #95 of 199
Nice, will buy.
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sealed the deal, i will be pre ordering this once my 15 ea voucher comes in and the extra $10 voucher already have.
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Anyone in for a group buy of some of these?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Traulsen-G12010-...#ht_502wt_1139

Totally gonna freeze myself down until October
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I can't speak for all weapons, but on the M16 the charging handle doesn't even work with the bolt locked back. It won't add pressure or anything else, it can only be used if the bolt is forward. Now it's possible that if you fire your weapon dry and send the bolt home on accident (usually if you drop your weapon or knock it against something) you'll need to re-rack the charging handle, but most experienced weapon users will probably try to avoid a mistake like that.
I have trigger time with the entire family of M16 and M4 weapons systems. The charging handle does work when the bolt is locked back. It doesn't work immediately of course do to the fact that the bolt is in the rearward position. But there is still enough room (in the buffer tube) with the bolt locked back and it has to take up the slack, that the charging handle can relieve the pressure on the bolt catch enough to allow the release to let the bolt go into battery.

If your charging handle does not contact the carrier key with the bolt locked back there is something wrong lol. The AR/Stoner weapon systems are meant to be run this way. If your rifle wasn't capable of this it either had the wrong buffer installed or an incorrect spring.

The only time that the bolt cannot be released by the charging handle is if you have an empty magazine in, which wouldn't be the case when reloading.

While you can run the bolt release then tap the forward assist, you will be much more likely to chamber the initial round with the bolt in the most rearward position before re-leaving pressure on the carrier. The forward assist will not be needed 99.9% of the time, unless you have an extreme OAL cartridge etc. Actually it can make things worse off. If for what ever reason the round does not want to chamber you are better of cycling it out then forcing it in deeper. Ever had to kick open an M4? I have its not fun.

Experienced weapon users would always want the most rearward pressure on the bolt so when released the bolt has the most chance of picking up the top round in a loaded magazine.
Edited by Hawk777th - 6/7/11 at 6:05am
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Nice, will buy.
Why not wait for the beta ?!

What if it s bugged ?!

Imagine that this beautiful thing will feature all kinds of bugs .Then imagine that the patches will not solve them ,as BF BC2 patches have.proven
I really hope the beta will be properly made ,to have a really nice game from the first day it s live.

This game will be released next year in march and not in 2011 , looks to good to be ready.
Kids will focus on COD most probable ,so it s a risk to release it unfinished in same time with COD.
   
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Finally some MP footage. Not enough to really get an opinion on it though. Full length trailer please
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