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6/6/11 at 2:47pm

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I'm looking to replace my OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD with a 120GB SSD SATA III in either the OCZ Agility 3 or the Corsair Force 3.

I can get either drive for about the same cost, I am just wondering which is the better of the 2?

I also thought about replacing my mobo (ASUS M4A89GTD PRO) with the ASUS Crosshair IV Formula, would that be a better upgrade than going with a SATA III SSD over my 60gb Vertex 2??

Just have a couple hundred bucks to spend on my system and want to do the best upgrade at this time.

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6/6/11 at 2:50pm

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Crucial C300 or m4, whichever is cheaper is what I would recommend if you want SATA III drive. Upgrading to P67 for native SATA III support is also a good idea, yes. All depends on your budget.

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6/6/11 at 2:51pm

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there is no real reason to upgrade your board right now the one you have should be fine for the Sata III ssd that you would like to run as to which ssd to get personally I would go for the Force 3 Its a little faster in write times and from what I can see has higher IOPS

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Crucial C300 or m4, whichever is cheaper is what I would recommend if you want SATA III drive. Upgrading to P67 for native SATA III support is also a good idea, yes. All depends on your budget.

???? why the C300 its significantly slower that both the Agility 3 and Force 3 drives. Also there is no reason to upgrade to a P67 board and processor just for sata 3 performance. The P67 does have a better Sata 3 controller but not near enough to justify dumping his current system and putting out more money just for that
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Yes, I must apologize. Upgrading mobo is not a good idea to max SATA performance for now. But what I was trying to say that native Intel SATA III controller will give better speeds in general than SATA II or Marvell SATA III (don't use it!).

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???? why the C300 its significantly slower that both the Agility 3 and Force 3 drives.

Well, first of all I don't want to engage in argument which drive is faster. Simply because it doesn't matter too much in real-life use. You won't see a difference.

But since you are saying C300 is significantly slower, could you please provide benchmark pics where Agility 3 or Force 3 is significantly faster? Because so far I can only agree that Vertex 3 is somewhat faster than Crucial drives of the same capacity (once again, according to the benchmarks that I've seen on OCN).

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Falls behind by a bit in heavy workload testing
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4346/o...240gb-review/3

and is way behind on light workload testing
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4346/o...240gb-review/4

agility 3 beats it in basicly every test even with it on a SATA 2 controller it still beats the C300 on a SATA 3 controller. The corsair force dosnt have many benches out but from base specs looks to be a bit faster than the agility 3.

Also why recommend a slower drive at the same price point? Makes no sence if your buying an ssd why not get the fastest in your price range
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I recommend what I have myself and had experience with. This differences in speeds are not that big at all, plus OP aims for 60GB drive and those you linked are 240GB and above, so the performance will be completely different. Moreover, I read many times on OCN that people had issues with OCZ and had to RMA.

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Quote:

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This can very easily be tied to the fact that everyone recommends them and so many people end up buying them. I'd say that 8 out of 10 SSDs you see people have on OCN are OCZ or Intel based drives. SSDs are still immature and setup/optimization are not as straight forward as a simple HDD. OCZ is always on the bleeding edge of SSD performance and that makes them very popular, but also an easy target.

Having said that I believe you can't go wrong with any of the major SSD producers, OCZ, Intel, Corsair, Kingston, or G Skill. Just make sure you do your research for setup/flashing/compatibility before you make your purchase.

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Thanks for the input guys... one thing tho that XSCounter said was getting native SATA 3, but my current board ASUS M4AGTD PRO has native SATA 3.

I'm wondering if I would notice the speed difference between my SATA 2 vs a SATA 3. The main reason for potentially getting a SATA 3 SSD is that I want to go to a larger drive (120GB) vs my current 60GB SSD. I don't feel comfortable knowing that I only have 5GB of free space left on the current drive.

Currently my Windows Index Score for my Vertex 2 60GB is at 6.9 out of 7.9.

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If you are upgrading from SATA II to SATA III drive, you won't see too much difference. It's the transition from HDD to SSD, which blows minds

What scores are you getting right now in AS SSD benchmark with your Vertex 2?

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So I tried that AS SSD program. I don't think my score is very good when compared to the one from the application site

The scores seem terrible... whats wrong?!?!

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