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After 3.6, youll need to play with the voltage to achieve stability, 1.3600v - 1.400v area for 4.0ghz range. and like Darkknight512 said, you wont reach the max as it will get to hot. With getting higher ghz, youll also need to up the speed on the ram as well.
Forgot to add, fsb x2 = ram speed for this, please correct me if im wrong on this.
Edited by icablood - 6/6/11 at 5:03pm
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Originally Posted by grishkathefool View Post
An E8400 shouldn't be bottlenecking a 260. What resolution and options is he playing with?
I believe hes playing at
1920 x 1080 acording to the settings *shrug*
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After 3.6, youll need to play with the voltage to achieve stability, 1.3600v - 1.400v area for 4.0ghz range. and like Darkknight512 said, you wont reach the max as it will get to hot. With getting higher ghz, youll also need to up the speed on the ram as well.
hmm okay, so far i got it up to 3.3ghz so ill see how far i can go then pull it back a bit
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I really don't think you're going to have problems with the E8400 bottlenecking the 260 though. I did some test just yesterday between my 2600k and E8400 and with vsync off @ 1080p these were my findings with Metro 2033 very high settings on a gtx 580:

Metro 2033 with 2600k @ stock vsync off
Average Framerate: 49.00
Max. Framerate: 105.21
Min. Framerate: 9.97

Metro 2033 on E8400 with vsync off:
Average Framerate: 41.33
Max. Framerate: 126.53
Min. Framerate: 9.10

Other games were around par or around par with my 2600k and the E8400 set to 3.4ghz.
You might squeeze maximum 5 more fps out with a higher clock on the E8400 but I think your friend might want to look at getting a new gpu if he wants more performance.
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After 3.6, youll need to play with the voltage to achieve stability, 1.3600v - 1.400v area for 4.0ghz range. and like Darkknight512 said, you wont reach the max as it will get to hot. With getting higher ghz, youll also need to up the speed on the ram as well.
Forgot to add, fsb x2 = ram speed for this, please correct me if im wrong on this.
Negative. You shouldn't need that much Core voltage for 3.6 - 4.0. Also, the clock frequency x 2 = ideal RAM Speed and clock frequency x 4 = FSB. So, at a 400MHz clock freq. you would want to run your RAM at or near 800MHz and your FSB would be humming along at 1600MHz. As your freq. clock gets higher, you will need to change the memory strap (ratio) to keep the RAM speeds in a range that they can handle.

Check my sig for some hints about voltages. At 3.6GHz, I need ~1.25v at Core, 1.2 FSBv, no PLL adjustments, 1.2 NB and 1.5 SB. At 4.0GHz (500x8), I needed 1.35v Core and 1.28 FSB. Keep in mind, I have 8GB of RAM, so I need a touch more FSB and NB volts.

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I really don't think you're going to have problems with the E8400 bottlenecking the 260 though....

You might squeeze maximum 5 more fps out with a higher clock on the E8400 but I think your friend might want to look at getting a new gpu if he wants more performance.
THIS^^
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overclock gpu?
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overclock gpu?
still won't see much improvement. like system said, best bet is to live with what you have, or buy a new GPU. You can find a lot of graphics performance, today, for modest $$.

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After trying out some programs and games it seems that his cpu cant keep up with the graphics at stock (bfbc2 gpu @ 70-80% usage and cpu is at 92-100%).


Thanks!
Is Physx enabled? If it's not, then the CPU is trying to do the physx calculations. Have you turning on AA? Try setting AA at x2 and see if that doesn't increase the GPU usage.
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Negative. You shouldn't need that much Core voltage for 3.6 - 4.0. Also, the clock frequency x 2 = ideal RAM Speed and clock frequency x 4 = FSB. So, at a 400MHz clock freq. you would want to run your RAM at or near 800MHz and your FSB would be humming along at 1600MHz. As your freq. clock gets higher, you will need to change the memory strap (ratio) to keep the RAM speeds in a range that they can handle.

Check my sig for some hints about voltages. At 3.6GHz, I need ~1.25v at Core, 1.2 FSBv, no PLL adjustments, 1.2 NB and 1.5 SB. At 4.0GHz (500x8), I needed 1.35v Core and 1.28 FSB. Keep in mind, I have 8GB of RAM, so I need a touch more FSB and NB volts.

THIS^^
What should the buss speed be labled as? all i can see in the OC menu is a fsb and lsp(? i think what it was), so dont know how i should oc .. but maybe ill keep it at 3.1 or 3.2
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overclock gpu?
tried a afterburner overclock saw a 4fps oc
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Originally Posted by grishkathefool View Post
still won't see much improvement. like system said, best bet is to live with what you have, or buy a new GPU. You can find a lot of graphics performance, today, for modest $$.



Is Physx enabled? If it's not, then the CPU is trying to do the physx calculations. Have you turning on AA? Try setting AA at x2 and see if that doesn't increase the GPU usage.
hmmm currnetly he has disabled physx and is AA i think was set at 1x or 2x

hmm but i was talking to him, he says that the system actaully bsod or freeses at stock sometimes (which is the reason he brought it to me) so what can cause those? (currently reinstalling Windows 7, his image got lost @_@ )
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What should the buss speed be labled as? all i can see in the OC menu is a fsb and lsp(? i think what it was), so dont know how i should oc .. but maybe ill keep it at 3.1 or 3.2

tried a afterburner overclock saw a 4fps oc

hmmm currnetly he has disabled physx and is AA i think was set at 1x or 2x

hmm but i was talking to him, he says that the system actaully bsod or freeses at stock sometimes (which is the reason he brought it to me) so what can cause those? (currently reinstalling Windows 7, his image got lost @_@ )
For Asus P5ql pro:

FSB Frequency [xxx]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [xxx]
FSB Termination voltage (VTT)
CPU Voltage
CPU Ratio Setting [xX]

that should be all you need to fiddle with.


I am looking at the P5N-D manual and I don't see any settings for Core voltage or FSB voltage. I am not sure what you need to do to OC it, now. Look around and see if you see anything that I mentioned above.

As for the BSODs, what is the error code? It may be memory related. It may be something simple like a dirty heat sink.

When it's all said and done, Enable Physx and see what the GPU does. That should push it to 100%. You won't get more than 5FPS out of a CPU overclock, unless you push past 4.25GHz, I think.
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For Asus P5ql pro:

FSB Frequency [xxx]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [xxx]
FSB Termination voltage (VTT)
CPU Voltage
CPU Ratio Setting [xX]

that should be all you need to fiddle with.


I am looking at the P5N-D manual and I don't see any settings for Core voltage or FSB voltage. I am not sure what you need to do to OC it, now. Look around and see if you see anything that I mentioned above.

As for the BSODs, what is the error code? It may be memory related. It may be something simple like a dirty heat sink.

When it's all said and done, Enable Physx and see what the GPU does. That should push it to 100%. You won't get more than 5FPS out of a CPU overclock, unless you push past 4.25GHz, I think.
hmm okay good to know, i did a mem test and the memory was fine according to that, so maybe its driver related? i havent seen it happen (last time was 2 days ago when loading steam).

but the biggest issue right now is the windows 7 image keeps being lost so im having to reinstall it -__- .. (2 times so far).. could that be hard drive related?

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hmmm... I suppose so. So when you boot up, there is no Windows Install present?
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