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Hey guys, about to pull the trigger on a set of Audio Technica ATH-AD700 (+ Zalman Microphone Zm-Mic1). From what I've seen and heard on OCN and other forums (audio related), there's no point in buying a decent set of cans without a sound card. So, I was hoping you guys could give me a recommendation on a sound card preferably under $50 that would bring out the best in this specific model; otherwise, prove to me why I don't need one.


EDIT: How does that Zalman mic fare with just sitting on a desk? Would be nice if it could, but is it a clip-on only?
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what are your interests (gaming / music)?

if gaming (actually alot of gaming ) get the X-Fi titanium

otherwise the Xonar DX is the best in this price range BUT it has some issues with BC2 only
    
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what are your interests (gaming / music)?

if gaming (actually alot of gaming ) get the X-Fi titanium

otherwise the Xonar DX is the best in this price range BUT it has some issues with BC2 only
I plan on using it mostly for gaming and maybe a some for music. Would emphasize gaming much more than music, however. Also, BC2 is the multi-player game I plan on playing the most (<--see avatar), so if it has issues...
post #4 of 12
if you game alot then i would say to get the X-Fi titanium , its very good gaming card

and about the Xonar issue with BC2: see this maybe it will help
http://www.overclock.net/sound-cards...sound-tip.html
    
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if you game alot then i would say to get the X-Fi titanium , its very good gaming card

and about the Xonar issue with BC2: see this maybe it will help
http://www.overclock.net/sound-cards...sound-tip.html
Is there any X-Fi in particular you are referring to? There seem to be a bunch on amazon/newegg.
post #6 of 12
Just a heads up OP.

The only thing AD700s beat the RX700s in is comfort--by a lot. Yes, they've got a larger sound stage, but the RX700's sound stage is big enough to pin point sounds in games, so you get no benefit in that area from AD700s or just a trivial one at best. Then of course, the AD700s have no bass and an obnoxious airy treble sound while the RX700s give great balanced sound. Finally, the price. AD700s cost three times more than RX700s despite being good for only one thing and the RX700s many.

But if you're convinced that the AD700s ridiculous price = quality then I'll share with you that they got no more benefit from my Titanium HD than they did from my Realtek ALC889. In case you're curious, your integrated sound is an updated version of mine (with just an extra feature: on the fly DTS encoding).
Edited by cuad - 6/6/11 at 7:25pm
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Just a heads up OP.

The only thing AD700s beat the RX700s in is comfort--by a lot. Yes, they've got a larger sound stage, but the RX700's sound stage is big enough to pin point sounds in games, so you get no benefit in that area from AD700s or just a trivial one at best. Then of course, the AD700s have no bass and an obnoxious airy treble sound while the RX700s give great balanced sound. Finally, the price. AD700s cost three times more than RX700s despite being good for only one thing and the RX700s many.

But if you're convinced that the AD700s ridiculous price = quality then I'll share with you that they got no more benefit from my Titanium HD than they did from my Realtek ALC889. In case you're curious, your integrated sound is an updated version of mine (with just an extra feature: on the fly DTS encoding).

Well, you've pretty much re-affirmed what has been creeping into my mind for the past hour or so. I can't seem to find a definitive answer on any sound cards, so I won't bother with one for now, unless the sound is crap. However, I may look at some more reviews before I jump the gun on this. Should my mobo sound driver provide decent enough 3D sound-staging to where I can be confident spatial where sounds are coming from (I know next to nothing about audio, so sorry if my ignorance offends you )?
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There isn't really a definite answer. Even if we have the same on board sound, there are a lot of things that can affect how they sound, so it would benefit you to listen to a sound card. Just not an expensive one. A Xonar DG would be enough.

What I really wanted was to convince you not to buy AD700s. I made that mistake and just dropped them off at the UPS earlier today to be returned.
Edited by cuad - 6/6/11 at 7:48pm
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There isn't really a definite answer. Even if we have the same on board sound, there are a lot of things that can affect how they sound, so it would benefit you to listen to a sound card. Just not an expensive one. A Xonar DG would be enough.

What I really wanted was to convince you not to buy AD700s. I made that mistake and just dropped them off at the UPS earlier today to be returned.
Well, snooping around the web to find out about the RX700s, it seems it's hard to justify spending another $60 on headphones that get comparable reviews (looks more like personal preference as to which reviews are for which). You owe me 30 bucks if these things suck!

EDIT: Do you know if the Xonar DG is alright with BFBC2?

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EDIT2: Is there a specific burn-in time you'd recommend for these? Most recently, it took me about 80 hours of leaving my ipod playing to burn in (to my liking) my S4s.
Edited by Infinite Jest - 6/6/11 at 8:09pm
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I didn't say that you should get RX700s, and I didn't say that the RX700s didn't suck. I just said that they're better than AD700s. You're welcome to spend whatever you want on a different pair of headphones as long as they're not AD700s. I think RX700s can be useful as an inexpensive reference point to compare other headphones with, though, so I'm glad to have a pair.

Also I think burn in is an exaggerated phenomenon. Both of my headphones made these sporadic scratching noises for the first few hours, so it exists on some level, but when that went away, nothing else happened. If something did change, I wouldn't be able to tell you.

Also the DG should be fine. I don't believe in one sound card being better for a certain purpose either. After all, they all sound the same in my computer.
Edited by cuad - 6/6/11 at 8:24pm
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