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Ahhh man! Please people don't spread misinformation :O

Max CPU tempature specified by AMD is 62C, it will auto shutdown at around 105C to prevent long term damage.

Max CPU Voltage is 1.55V and max CPU-NB is around 1.45V.

The CPU will be more prone to errors when it passes the 55C mark so watch out.

Read the thread i posted.

The temps specified by AMD are TCase temps which are the Core temps. CPU temps are TJunction.

Core temps safe max = 62c
Core temps danger zone = 72-74c

CPU temp max = 90c

As stated by an AMD rep in the thread
Edited by amorph - 6/6/11 at 11:28pm
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post #22 of 38
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i have 20x multi @ 4ghz didnt touch fsb
your crazy... AMDs get 90% of there speed out of fsb 237x17.0 will out proform 200x20 all day long
post #23 of 38
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Originally Posted by amurph0 View Post
Read the thread i posted.

The temps specified by AMD are TCase temps which are the Core temps. CPU temps are TJunction.

Core temps safe max = 62c
Core temps danger zone = 72-74c

CPU max = 90c

As stated by an AMD rep in the thread
*Smacks Face* / *Walks away from thread*

Core tempature sensors are not imbedded in the CPU cores, because AMD were too ape enough to do soo.

CPU Socket Tempature is the most reliable and show true tempature readings.

CPU will cut power at 105C,

CPU Max specified by AMD is 62C, Errors will start showing when it passes 55C if you have it overclocked enough.

AMD does not like heat.
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post #24 of 38
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Originally Posted by Atomfix View Post
*Smacks Face* / *Walks away from thread*

Core tempature sensors are not imbedded in the CPU cores, because AMD were too ape enough to do soo.

CPU Socket Tempature is the most reliable and show true tempature readings.

CPU will cut power at 105C,

CPU Max specified by AMD is 62C, Errors will start showing when it passes 55C if you have it overclocked enough.

AMD does not like heat.
You didn't read the thread. The AMD rep explains exactly why the Core temps are lower then the CPU temps and that the limit is 62c on the core for thubans.

Also i've had mine with a CPU temp of 72c when on load for months with no problems.

Read the thread
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post #25 of 38
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You didn't read the thread. The AMD rep explains exactly why the Core temps are lower then the CPU temps and that the limit is 62c on the core for thubans.

Also i've had mine with a CPU temp of 72c when on load for months with no problems.
*ohh my!*

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post #26 of 38
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Originally Posted by Atomfix View Post
*ohh my!*

Walks away from participateing thread.
You won't even read the thread that explains everything i'm talking about

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Paul~

Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, I just recently had your email forwarded to my department.

Concerning your question regarding the temperatures with your processor. (1090) the maximum temperature threshold is 62 Celsius which set for the internal die (core) temperature of the chip. The core temperatures have an equational offset to determine temperature which equalizes at about 45 Celsius thus giving you more accurate readings at peak temperatures. The hindrance in this is the sub ambient idle temperature readings you speak of.

The silicon and adhesives used in manufacturing these processors has a peak temperature rating of 97+ Celsius before any form of degradation will take place. The processor also has a thermal shut off safe guard in place that shuts the processor down at 90 Celsius.

The Cpu temperature is read form a sensor embedded within the socket of your motherboard causing about a 7-10 Celsius variance form the actual Cpu temperature, which may be what you are reading about on the net.

You can use an application called AMD overdrive, that will allow you to monitor your temperatures accurately.

As long as your core temperature has not exceeded the high side of the 60 degree mark for extended periods of time you should be ok. 62 degrees holds a generous safety net to begin with.

I hope I was able to answer your questions, If you have any more inquiries don't hesitate to contact us.


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Core tempature sensors are not imbedded in the CPU cores, because AMD were too ape enough to do soo.
THIS why the coretemps appear lower then the CPU temps:
Quote:
The core temperatures have an equational offset to determine temperature which equalizes at about 45 Celsius thus giving you more accurate readings at peak temperatures. The hindrance in this is the sub ambient idle temperature readings you speak of.
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Originally Posted by Atomfix View Post
CPU Socket Tempature is the most reliable and show true tempature readings.
Is it?:
Quote:
The Cpu temperature is read form a sensor embedded within the socket of your motherboard causing about a 7-10 Celsius variance form the actual Cpu temperature
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Originally Posted by Atomfix View Post
CPU will cut power at 105C
90c actually

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Originally Posted by Atomfix View Post
CPU Max specified by AMD is 62C,
No, the CORE temp is specified by AMD as having a max temp of 62c.

Not the CPU temp!

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Originally Posted by Atomfix View Post
Errors will start showing when it passes 55C if you have it overclocked enough


Because mine is stable at 72c on load without errors. And thats after 250 passes of IBT, 12 hours of prime95 and a few SuperPi 32m tests, and it's been stable for the last couple of months since i brought it up to that temp.

I know first hand that this is all correct and so do all the other guys in that thread who run their chips at that temp and haven't reported any problems!

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Originally Posted by Atomfix View Post
AMD does not like heat.
Well with a max CPU temp of 62c they might as well have made it out of plastic

Just think for a second. If the max CPU temp was 62c why would the auto shutdown be at 90c?

And if you go beyond 62c on the core temps the CPU temp just so happens to come close to that shutdown temp?

Coincidence?

NO because when AMD say the max is 62c they are talking about just the CORE TEMPS!

Not to mention the fact that the chip is made from the same stuff as the other Phenom II's! They are all silicon based chips and all have similar max temps!

People only believe the max CPU temp is 62c because they have misunderstood the instructions supplied and specs released by AMD on which temp to follow!
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your crazy... AMDs get 90% of there speed out of fsb 237x17.0 will out proform 200x20 all day long
I'm just starting out OCing, I'm just trying with just CPU multiplier and then I'll will try with FSB as well.
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post #28 of 38
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Ahhh man! Please people don't spread misinformation :O

Max CPU Voltage is 1.55V and max CPU-NB is around 1.45V.
Same with you. Because the max CPU-NB voltage is 1.5v on air and this is from AMD Spec.

EDIT
Sorry. I was wrong about 1.55v it is 1.5v, so I change it.
Here is the AMD ocing guide for the Phenom II cpus to clear stuff up.
http://game.amd.com/us-en/content/pd...ning_Guide.pdf
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Same with you. Because the max CPU-NB voltage is 1.5v on air and this is from AMD Spec.

EDIT
Sorry. I was wrong about 1.55v it is 1.5v, so I change it.
Here is the AMD ocing guide for the Phenom II cpus to clear stuff up.
http://game.amd.com/us-en/content/pd...ning_Guide.pdf
That guide is for the Dragon platform.

Isn't the Dragon platform all about the PhII x4's? (Deneb core)

I dont think it has anything to do with the x6's (Thuban core).

The stats and stuff (temps, volts, etc) of the Denebs aren't necessarily the same as with the Thubans.
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