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I have narrowed down my choices to M4 or C300. I have searched tons, but can't find any definitive information for the best performance for my "usage".

I will be using integrated intel 3Gb/s controller.

I am mostly concerned with "typical usage" (you know- boot speed, navigating windows, browsing internet) and Games

Most of the benchmarks I find generally show M4 being better at sequential stuff and c300 being better at random, but I can't find any "real world" usage showing them on 3Gb/s controller.

Would the bandwidth bottle neck change the general results? Would the difference in performance even be noticeable in the usage defined above? I am leaning toward no and therefore leaning toward M4 (if for not much better reason than newer tech)

The other decision I have to make is would I rather have 2 smaller drives in RAID0 or a single larger one. My understanding is that it is a tradeoff between loss of trim/simplicity and higher read / write. Since I do not plan on working with large files that often, am I correct in the assumption that a single larger drive with trim would be "faster" overall?

and with all that in mind I am looking at either

256GB M4
256GB C300
two 128GB M4 (raid0)
two 128GB C300 (raid0)

EDIT: the difference in cost between 256gb M4 / C300 is $10 and difference between 128GB M4/ C300 is $4 so price doesn't really matter.
Thanks:D
Edited by TheChris2233 - 6/6/11 at 11:49pm
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Hey mate, I'm a bit in a hurry, but I knew I saw a test of the M4 vs the C300 on a SATA II controller: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4346/ocz-agility-3-240gb-review/8

If you browse around in that review they also have some tests of all the SSDs in SATA2/3 mode and you can see pretty much all the details that matter including synthetic benches and "real-world" benches.

About the 2xsmall vs 1xbigger SSD I'd also pick the one bigger drive. 2x smaller would be faster in benches, but I doubt you'll actually see this in daily usage as one SSD is already fast enough. As have probably seen on reviews smaller drives are somewhat slower at smaller capacities; 2xsmall are not double the speed of one bigger drive, you'd win some 50% performance in benches, probably much less in the real world and you'd lose endurance (TRIM) and simplicity.
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I thought the C300 would drop in price when the M4 comes out but it seems like Crucial know that the C300 is still a damn good drive!

After doing lots of reading around, I'm also thinking of going for either one of these in 128GB
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Originally Posted by TheChris2233;13781005 
I will be using integrated intel 3Gb/s controller.

I am mostly concerned with "typical usage" (you know- boot speed, navigating windows, browsing internet) and Games

Most of the benchmarks I find generally show M4 being better at sequential stuff and c300 being better at random, but I can't find any "real world" usage showing them on 3Gb/s controller.

If you are going to use Sata 3Gb/s controller, the M4, no question. I don't know how Crucial did it, but the performance hit between 6Gb/s and 3Gb/s is very small, unlike the C300.

The M4 is a little better at sequential and writes, but the C300 still holds the crown for random reads... but just by a little bit.

Also, TRIM still isn't supported in RAID, so while initial benchmarks would blow a single drive away, you'd suffer a big slow-down after several months of usage. Unless you plan on secure erasing your SSDs and reinstalling Windows every month, get a single drive.

Lastly, the "real world" difference between any of the latest drives is so small that you won't be able to tell the difference (unless you are an extreme multitasker). You might be able to use a stopwatch to clock a 0.25 second difference in boot time between the drives, but that's about it.

Hope this helps smile.gif
 
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Thanks for the help all.

After hours upon hours of research, I've pretty much decided to try a single 256GB M4. Does anybody know if it comes with a 2.5" to 3.5" adapter?
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no it doesnt seem like it
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Originally Posted by TheChris2233;13806134 
Thanks for the help all.

After hours upon hours of research, I've pretty much decided to try a single 256GB M4. Does anybody know if it comes with a 2.5" to 3.5" adapter?

Like yourself, I'm considering a Crucial drive, here's the adapter I'm going to use:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817812011

...it looks like it aligns the SSD to the side, so the SATA/Power connectors line up with a regular 3.5" HDD.
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Originally Posted by aln688;13812988 
Like yourself, I'm considering a Crucial drive, here's the adapter I'm going to use:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817812011

...it looks like it aligns the SSD to the side, so the SATA/Power connectors line up with a regular 3.5" HDD.

Looks pretty good. I paid a little more and got [ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002BH3Z8E"]Amazon.com: SILVERSTONE SDP08 3.5 to 2 X 2.5-Inch Bay Converter: Electronics[/ame] from amazon. Didn't really compare or check into em so I hope it works okay.

I got enough cable length that I'll be okay if it lines up weird. My psu only have 6 sata power connectors and I currently have

2 dvd-rw
2 hdd
2 corsair f120 ssd.

Ended up having to move the DVD drives to lower 5.25 bays as the damn power connector didn't work. As an added bonus to dropped SSD raid, I can plug my never used front panel e-sata port back in cheers.gif

I'll post on here what I think of the Crucial M4 in a few days!
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Sounds great! I saw the Silverstone too, nice cage, but for me my SATA cables are 12" exactly, and they wouldn't stretch so the Mushkin adapter makes the plugs be in the same position as my old HDD. Please post your results of the M4, I'm going for a 256GB C300 myself.
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So I just replaced my Corsair F120 raid0 with Crucial M4 256GB. I am incredibly pleased so far. System feels much "snappier" and I'm no longer experiencing the lock ups I was having with the Corsairs. (You can read about that here if you are interested). I was even able to successfully use sleep mode thumb.gif

The benchmarks aren't as good of course, but I feel like this a prime example of how in many cases benchmarks can be taken with a grain of salt.

Edit: For what its worth, I did a full backup of Raid0 array using Acronis True Image trial and restored it to the M4 using boot disc. Alignment was preserved. Nifty program- think I'm going to buy it smile.gif

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