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1 TB RAID vs 80 GB SSD, to me the choice is simple
The choice is simple yes, you get an SSD for an OS drive. RAID 0 in comparison is pathetically slow.
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I just found this in the OCZ forum regarding BSOD and vertex3,agility3 or solid3

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There are way to many goal posts moving around to nail this issue down. To date, 1st June 2011, SF have not been able to reproduce any of the issues you guys are seeing..reason? I think its setup not FW causing you all issues.

So...its time to fix the goal posts, we all test and report on our systems 1 way and 1 way only.

1 absolutely NO OVERCLOCKING..why? it turns off power management features and has documented problems with power management especially on P67 and higher chipsets.

2 You will be testing with a fresh install and your board needs to have been flashed to the newest UEFI or Bios available and it must have seen a thorough cmos clear.

3 You have to set up windows 7 exactly as I document it here and report info exactly as I ask you do..this info then will go back to OCZ and SF as needed.

I'm not interested in people who are imaging drives, don't moan at me, you want to test you test my way or you sit and watch, simple as that. If you overclock you MUST set systems to defaults, this includes ram and cpu and video...there are too many variables that get changed when the systems are overclocked and frankly we can not warrant a drive if its failing because the boards are doing something weird when overclocked...thats a problem for the motherboard manufacturer not OCZ.

So...what to do.
people with Intel based boards and vtx3/agility3 or solid3 and bsod look in here



No OC with a Intel board and a OCZ Sandforce controlled SSD
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post #23 of 42
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Originally Posted by PoopaScoopa View Post
OCZ Vertex 3, Corsair Force Series 3, etc.

The only SSD to get is Intel's for now unless you want last generation models. Hopefully Corsair is willing to refund my money.
Don't forget Crucial along with Intel. Intel may win in reliability, but Crucial makes good drives and the new M4's do not use SF.
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I just found this in the OCZ forum regarding BSOD and vertex3,agility3 or solid3



people with Intel based boards and vtx3/agility3 or solid3 and bsod look in here



No OC with a Intel board and a OCZ Sandforce controlled SSD
Wow, OCZ still trying to blame their customers and ignoring their role in this. OCZ has some of the worst customer support. They treat their customers like crap.
post #25 of 42
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I also had problems with my SSD not showing up at all, even after 4 bios updates, still same problem, not to mention the horrendous degrading in performance as time goes on...
It takes years for a SSD to degrade in performance.
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There is no "horrendous degrading in performance as time goes on" for home users. This is an issue only if you run OSX or a non-major OS or have a workload of continous access.
QFT!
Edited by Heavy MG - 6/9/11 at 12:27am
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post #26 of 42
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Don't forget Crucial along with Intel. Intel may win in reliability, but Crucial makes good drives and the new M4's do not use SF.
Crucial (AKA Micron) and Intel are partners in SSD tech.

See IMFT
http://www.imftech.com/
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post #27 of 42
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It takes years for a SSD to degrade in performance.
You are talking on assumption, it's only theoretical. No one can prove it because it hasn't been very long since SSDs hit the market.
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post #28 of 42
Lol. Knew I had bad omens riding about the Sandforce. Glad I haven't bought any SSD's.
post #29 of 42
I protested against Sandforce last year because of high failure rates compared to Crucial and Intel. This year, I refused to buy and Sandforce parts. Some people on other sites said I was wrong, but all of these failures had one thing in common, they all had Sanforce controllers. Intel is the way to go for any SSD purchase from this point on.

In this case, speed does kill.
Edited by WorldExclusive - 6/13/11 at 11:14pm
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post #30 of 42
I've been saying it over and over and over again, but no one listened or believed me.

I had a Vertex 2 120GB drive and it broke on me. OCZ drives break... Sandforce is a major reason (but OCZ in particular puts together bad drives). I RMA'd my drive, got a new one back (sealed), sold it on craigslist, and the guy emailed me back all angry because the replacement drive broke after a week or so. Told him how to RMA and told him good luck lol.
    
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