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Those temps aren't possible. How would it be possible for the core temp to get below ambient but not the cpu?
Because its core temp. They always show below ambient at idle. Its the CPU temp that really monitors the temp of the chip, core temp, as shown in OP means nothing.
post #92 of 162
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I think it's because CPU6 has a 3% load, while CPU2 has 0%.

As load increases, so does the frequency.

My guess of course, but it would make sense.
But cpu#7 is at 14% and 983mhz. This is why that photo bother's me. Nothing "looks" right.
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Because its core temp. They always show below ambient at idle. Its the CPU temp that really monitors the temp of the chip, core temp, as shown in OP means nothing.
So because it's a core temp and not cpu temp it can magically break the laws of thermodynamics? No. Those are not correct temps. Of course it means something, when the sensor/software isn't broken that is.
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Any motherboard or AMD cpu I have ever owned has shown temps this way. Notice my useless "core' temps. Its about 74F in here right now, they show about 64F, but the CPU temp, which is the measuring point of the CPU itself show much higher. Perfectly normal, but the chip is not running at 19C in OP, its probably more like 26-30C.



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At least 1083 and 983 make sense, but the last (lowest clocked) has the heaviest load? That makes no sense.
This is how the current Phenoms behave if they are down-clocked. I'll use my chip as an example.

If all four cores are set to 800 mhz and i load windows then I get about 90% load. If I set the cores to 4ghz then the max load during windows loading is about 15-20%.
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post #96 of 162
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Any motherboard or AMD cpu I have ever owned has shown temps this way. Notice my useless "core' temps. Its about 74F in here right now, they show about 64F, but the CPU temp, which is the measuring point of the CPU itself show much higher. Perfectly normal, but the chip is not running at 19C in OP, its probably more like 26-30C.
Yes, because the sensors don't work. As I said, those temps aren't possible. I don't know what you're trying to argue here?
post #97 of 162
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Of course it means something, when the sensor/software isn't broken that is.
There is no AMD chip that will show core temp any differently. Thats just the way core temps are. Thats why we do not use them to measure temps. Why people are seeing that 19C and freaking out I have no idea, its useless.
post #98 of 162
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Maybe their montoring program isn't fully implemented yet, looking at it closer it seems more and more things don't add up. 19C doesn't seem possible at all and why is core1 at 3GHz but core 7 at .9Ghz but with a MUCH heavier load?
A much heavier load proportionally.

Also I love all the talk of what is and is not possible for a new architecture.
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A much heavier load proportionally.
Huh?
post #100 of 162
I think its just Cool n Quiet. The cores frequency can fluctuate individually with CnQ enabled. Frequencies and and everything else look fine. Its nice to finally see something.
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