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Hello everyone. This may be a common question in the gaming world, but I'm faced with a slightly different dilemma and would like some advise. I responded to another thread in the Intel forum, but was advised by a mod to create my own to have better luck at responses. Please read on, and thank you all in advance.

First off let me explain my background. I have a 2 year old system that I built at first for gaming. Later my Mac died and I didn't want to buy another for my auido purposes, so I converted the gaming PC into my audio workstation. In my audio workstation, my mobo died (AM2 mobo), so I have decided to go ahead and make a few upgrades instead of buying another AM2 mobo. I'm upgrading to an Asus AM3 mobo (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131669
), Phenom II x4 840 3.2Ghz processor, and my last upgrade will be memory. I don't know much about how the memory acts with audio processing, so I'll just explain what I use and a problem that I had before.

I run Cubase 4 as my main DAW (Digital Audio Workstation). Connected to the computer I have a Firewire PCI card so that I can connect my Tascam FW 1082 DAW controller (kind of like a mixer, but lets me control Cubase controls as well). I also have a keyboard (MOTIF XS 6) connected via USB to the computer for the midi signals. All of the audio from mics and the keyboard connect to the TASCAM.

On my previous system I ran an AMD Athlon 64 3800+ processor and 3GB of RAM 2 X 1GB and 2 X 512, both Dual Channel. Whenever I would open up virtual instruments (VSTi) in Cubase (specifically Omnisphere and Kontakt 2), the system would hesitate and take roughly 60-120 seconds before it would actually open the VSTi.

If the track was playing in Cubase during that time, it would skip, stop playing, play again, skip, stop, etc. until the VSTi was opened. Once open everything ran smoothly. I don't know whether this was a processor issue or a RAM issue, but I'm trying to combat both areas just in case.

The mobo that I'm getting (due to the fact that I need a PCI slot for the FW ports) only has 2 DDR3 memory slots vice the usual 4. When searching newegg, there were only a limited selection of mobos that had both a PCI Express x16 (for my older model video card) and PCI slots available, and this one seems the most reliable. All of them however only had 2 DDR3 memory slots.

So is it best for me to get a single 4GB memory stick, or 2 X 2GB Dual Channel sticks? I'm thinking the single 4 may be best for the price that I can use to get another in the near future when I can afford it rather than getting the dual 2 and having to replace them both later to get dual 4s to get a total of 8GB. Please let me know your thoughts. Thank you in advance.
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I can only speak from my own knowledge which isnt much for as far as audio pc's go but I would go with 1x4gb simply because it puts less stress on the memory controller with only one dimm.

Though I cant speak for what purpose ram serves in audio processing, I hope you find the answer here at OCN, so free bump for you!
    
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The cost for dual channel isn't a huge difference in price at all. Definitely go for it, you will get significantly better performance for the same price. Unless you are working with extremely large audio files, I doubt the RAM is going to be used fully that much if at all. I don't believe it is especially hard drive intensive either, much unlike video editing.
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Thank you both for the responses. What I mean by the price difference is that I can get 1X4GB for roughly $40.00 or 2X2 for roughly $45.00. That's not a big deal... but I don't plan on keeping it this way long. This will be just temporary... maybe a month or two until I want to get 8GB. At that point since the mobo only has 2 slots, if I were to upgrade from 2X2GB to 2X4GB, I'd have to pay roughly $90.00 and will have in reality wasted $45.00. But if I were to get the 1X4, I could just add another 1X4 for another $40.00.

So basically I'm asking is it worth it to go ahead and waste the $45.00 for a temporary means? Also if I get 2 sticks separately of 1X4 (same company, model, etc), are they usually made to interact dual channel as if you buy two sticks at the same time? I've heard both answers so I don't know which one to believe...

Also, just so that you're aware of how the audio process works more clearly... in any given song at moments (the chorus, bridge, sometimes hook) I can have roughly 30-45 tracks playing at the same time (track meaning only one instrument or vocal segment. The combination of all of these tracks is what makes the song whether instrumental or full song). Most of these tracks are midi notes that are triggering the play of vitrual instruments, so the DAW is constantly telling the computer to "trigger this note, on this program". Then that program says "find this instrument and send this sound in this key". Not only that, but based off of specific channels it can also add "send that back to this other program". That other program must "apply this type of effect, this much of it, and send it out the speakers".

It's not a lot of processing when there's only 8 going on at one time, but when the song comes together fully I can understand why the computer starts acting up. I just am not clear as to whether this is truly a processor function or a RAM function or a mix of both that handles all of this processing and passing of data before it's output and complete.
Edited by TJLakewood - 6/8/11 at 4:49am
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If it's only temporary then save yourself $5. The difference won't be all that much. 4GB DDR3 single channel will be an upgrade from the 3GB dual channel you had before.
    
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Go for the 1x4 for now. I'd get a different motherboard though, that one is a bit old.
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2x2 is the best choice ... dual channel
    
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i say go 2 x 2 as then the memory will work in dual channel mode. in THEORY this makes it faster as it can address all the memory at once.
     
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You two obviously didn't read the thread and see that he is getting another 4gb stick soon
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oh my bads. oopiess
     
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