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It's the field I want to be in. Whatever I have to do I will do my best to make it work.
I was never good at maths at school either, probably at a similar level as yourself or maybe even worse. I probably spent a good amount of my school time from the age of 12 messing with my home computers and network, including fixing other peoples and reading up on tones of different stuff like that.

I actually left school early to go on and study in the technical support and administration field in computing. That was around 4 years ago, now I've achieved 3 qualifications in technical support and networking, I also hold a MCTS in networking fundamentals and about to sit my Windows Server 2008 Administration exam this month.

By the end of this month I will also hold a Continual Professional Development qualification in networking security.

So don't let anybody ever tell you that you can't do it, if this is where you see yourself in a future career then go for it!

Like others have said, network security is a fairly specialist and complex area to work in but if it's what you enjoy doing then you will surely get a lot out of it and never stop learning new things.

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Dont be too concerned in what your degree is in. Just get one. Anything they teach you in a Security related degree will be out of date before you graduate.

Enjoy college, get a degree, the real learning starts after you graduate.
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The most important thing you can do is intern, since most places don't like hiring people with 0 experience. A problem with most good security positions, is that they are looking to hire people with tons of experience (+10yrs minimum), rather than someone with a degree.

If you looking at malware/virus type security, they will look for system admin and low level programming experience (Assembly as that is the level most of that stuff operates at). Other types of security are similar in experience, network security requires net admin experience, etc.

In your spare time (hah) play around with the aspects that interest you, since its much cheaper to find out that way than to take several classes and find out that a aspect of it doesnt work for you. For the type you are looking at, you might want to play with viruses in VMs.

Also, to learn the basics of assembly, I recommend playing Core War, which is a game where you write viruses in assembly, and compete with other viruses to take over a very simple VM.
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The most important thing you can do is intern, since most places don't like hiring people with 0 experience. A problem with most good security positions, is that they are looking to hire people with tons of experience (+10yrs minimum), rather than someone with a degree.

If you looking at malware/virus type security, they will look for system admin and low level programming experience (Assembly as that is the level most of that stuff operates at). Other types of security are similar in experience, network security requires net admin experience, etc.

In your spare time (hah) play around with the aspects that interest you, since its much cheaper to find out that way than to take several classes and find out that a aspect of it doesnt work for you. For the type you are looking at, you might want to play with viruses in VMs.

Also, to learn the basics of assembly, I recommend playing Core War, which is a game where you write viruses in assembly, and compete with other viruses to take over a very simple VM.
Very awesome post. Thank you very much. I have a backup computer, I think I am going to infect it with various viruses/malware and fully remove them and of course learn on the side like that.
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I begin college in Feb for Networking Security... wanna be my study partner?
Which school bcc. im in a ccna class right now
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The most important thing you can do is intern, since most places don't like hiring people with 0 experience. A problem with most good security positions, is that they are looking to hire people with tons of experience (+10yrs minimum), rather than someone with a degree.

If you looking at malware/virus type security, they will look for system admin and low level programming experience (Assembly as that is the level most of that stuff operates at). Other types of security are similar in experience, network security requires net admin experience, etc.

In your spare time (hah) play around with the aspects that interest you, since its much cheaper to find out that way than to take several classes and find out that a aspect of it doesnt work for you. For the type you are looking at, you might want to play with viruses in VMs.

Also, to learn the basics of assembly, I recommend playing Core War, which is a game where you write viruses in assembly, and compete with other viruses to take over a very simple VM.
Assembly...oh the horrors.
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Assembly...oh the horrors.
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I agree with the people who say it doesn't much matter what your exact degree is/ It's the experience you have under your belt, and being able to prove it on the spot. that makes a much larger impression. Show you can do the classwork, Get some paper they can sign off on with their insurance, Get a job you love.
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You see here's the problem.

IT professionals know about networking ins and outs and how to setup up hardware in a network.

Hackers knows networking in and out as well as programming but only knows how to setup the hardware for they're needs.

Now have a look at the last couple of months all the servers that were hacked of major companies who got highly professional security firms part of their security.
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Being completely honest, poor. I never ever got good grades in high school math, and struggled with even basic algebra.
Same here. You and me are in almost identical situations, but I want work with the network (i.e. Cabling, routers, switches, etc.). My cousin is pushing me to Major in Computer Science, but I just don't see the relevance to Networking and my Math skills other than basic math are horrible. Some people say Computer Science very easy, but I beg to differ after watching this MIT lecture.

http://youtu.be/k6U-i4gXkLM

Bratas know a lot. He has CCIE certification which is the best in the field so if you got any questions, he's the person to talk to.
    
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