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I have this old 40 GB hard disk. It is a Maxtor 94610U6. It appears to be mechanically and electrically sound and makes no clicking noises and you can hear it powering up and you can hear the arm accessing data. Update: It is an IDE drive, not a SATA. I've tried it in multiple systems.

When hooked up as a primary master it will boot as though it has windows 98 on it. You even see the Windows 98 boot screen.

However, that is all it does.

Windows 7 can see it, but cannot format it.

HDAT2 can see it, but reports that their is a mismatch between the size of the drive and the partition tables.

When I attempt to wipe it with HDAT2, it does not work.

When I boot off of a bootable flash drive I can actually access the hard disk and view the directories.

...but I cannot erase them or write to the disk.

Really, really, really bizarre.

It's an odd puzzle I'd like to solve in case I run into other hard disks like this.
Edited by Majestic_Lizard - 6/7/11 at 3:14pm
    
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I have this old 40 GB hard disk. It is a Maxtor 94610U6. It appears to be mechanically and electrically sound and makes no clicking noises and you can hear it powering up and you can hear the arm accessing data.

When hooked up as a primary master it will boot as though it has windows 98 on it. You even see the Windows 98 boot screen.

However, that is all it does.

Windows 7 can see it, but cannot format it.

HDAT2 can see it, but reports that their is a mismatch between the size of the drive and the partition tables.

When I attempt to wipe it with HDAT2, it does not work.

When I boot off of a bootable flash drive I can actually access the hard disk and view the directories.

...but I cannot erase them or write to the disk.

Really, really, really bizarre.

It's an odd puzzle I'd like to solve in case I run into other hard disks like this.
change sata cable, and or the port on the mobo. Just to rule that out
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change sata cable, and or the port on the mobo. Just to rule that out
It is an IDE drive, not a SATA. (sorry, I'll add that to the original post)

I've tried this on multiple computers with the exact same results.
    
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Check the jumper settings are all in the right place, there's usually a guide on the sticker of the hd that tell you the settings.
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Check the jumper settings are all in the right place, there's usually a guide on the sticker of the hd that tell you the settings.
I downloaded a pdf for this specific model and actually tried each jumper setting and each hard disk configuration, even with the cylinder limitation.

Always the same results.

I'm currently trying to format it with a windows 98 start-up disk. It says its formatting. But we'll see.
    
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Hmm well considering the age and make of the drive, i would'nt spend too much time on it bud, its probably not worth it.
Maxor drives are notorious for just dying without warning, if you do get it going, make sure you find a replacement soon because i cant imagine it'll last you long.

Its current bizarre behavior might just be its death throws
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Hmm well considering the age and make of the drive, i would'nt spend too much time on it bud, its probably not worth it.
Maxor drives are notorious for just dying without warning, if you do get it going, make sure you find a replacement soon because i cant imagine it'll last you long.

Its current bizarre behavior might just be its death throws
It probably is crapping out, but I also think the person who originally owned it installed an operating system using some type freeze program to create a host protected area. That somehow got corrupted. Like I said, its not that I intend to use this drive for anything productive. I'd simply like to solve the problem so that if I see it again I can fix it.

I think the hard disk has at one time had a triple boot with windows 98, windows xp, and linux. And I think there was also originally a hidden partition in a host protected area.
Edited by Majestic_Lizard - 6/7/11 at 4:10pm
    
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Ah i see, i hate it when that happens lol, something bugs you and you cant rest until you've beaten it!

Did windows 98 manage to format it?

There's a program called HDDErase, its on Hirens Boot disc, it runs off a bootable USB/disk yadda yadda
That can erase hidden or protected partitions, i used it to nuke a troublesome partition on a recycled WD drive that used to be in an external caddy thing
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Ah i see, i hate it when that happens lol, something bugs you and you cant rest until you've beaten it!

Did windows 98 manage to format it?

There's a program called HDDErase, its on Hirens Boot disc, it runs off a bootable USB/disk yadda yadda
That can erase hidden or protected partitions, i used it to nuke a troublesome partition on a recycled WD drive that used to be in an external caddy thing
I'll try that HDDErase. I think this drive is fubar.

No go with Windows 98.

Active Kill Disk from a boot disk could also see the non-erasable partition. This partition appears to be a windows installation. I can even see documents in the my documents folder, though I can't access them.

It appears that the original partition was a 1.3 GB partition with Windows 98. And there was a second partition that was God knows what, which was erased.

Then at some point, the headers got confused. So now the file allocation table is reading that the 1.3 GB is free and that the original Windows 98 partition is on the remaining 37 GB of space.

This is, of course, impossible because the 98 OS was on FAT16 or FAT32 partition and was only about 1.2 to 1.3 GB in size.
    
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Yeah i'd say that its probably not worth the hassle.
Im not sure if i can talk about hirens boot disk on here.....if you can, download it and boot it, there's a whole bunch of hard drive and partition tools on it that might be worth a go.
Failing that, I'd let it die, its frustrating and annoying i know but sometimes you have to know when to quit
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