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I have been reading up on water cooling for the past few weeks and am ready to start purchasing my new tower and wc parts. Im going to buy a Corsair 600T SE, I know there are better options case wise but its sexy and $50 cheaper then a 700D and a side window.

I will be cooling my CPU only for the moment with a Black Ice GT Stealth 240 and a EK HF block (non nickel of course). But I will be upgrading my video card to a 580/590 SLI when the prices drop a bit more. When I upgrade my GPU I will be adding a Phobya Xtreme 200 and a Black Ice Stealth 120. Im looking for a pump or pump/reservoir combo that will be sufficient.

I have been considering the XSPC X2O 750 and the Swiftech MCP655. I am leaning toward the XSPC because the Swiftech is getting pricey with a mod top and reservoir.

I am open to suggestions and only want to buy a pump once that will work well with all three radiators. I am not looking for anything fancy, just performance, as I will be hiding the pump/res even if I get the XSPC.

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With the three rads, CPU block and GPU blocks the X2O 750 will not cut it.

If you want a cheaper pump that can handle that loop have a look at the Jingway 1200 rebrands (EK DCP 4.0 or DD CPX-Pro). You will need to get a separate res of course, but the Swiftech Micro res is a good product and usually sells for ~$25. EK also do a pump mounted res which might suit your setup, but it is a little more at $35.

Otherwise you are looking at the D5 (MCP655 - PMP-450) or DDC (MCP355 / PMP-400) pumps. You only need a top for the 655 pumps if you are planning on using anything other than 1/2" ID or 7/16" ID tubing, the custom tops don't increase performance much.

For the DDC you can get a res top like this one from XSPC which combines the res and pump top into one package.

For both the D5 or DDC pumps you can get bay reservoirs which hold the pump too, but these tend to be a little more pricey.

Your choice really, depends on taste and budget.
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not a cheap option, but a great option nonetheless, but Swiftech MCP655
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Otherwise you are looking at the D5 (MCP655 - PMP-450) or DDC (MCP355 / PMP-400) pumps. You only need a top for the 655 pumps if you are planning on using anything other than 1/2" ID or 7/16" ID tubing, the custom tops don't increase performance much.
I plan on using 1/2" tubing, I read some where else the 655 had small barbs on it and that wouldn't work well with 1/2" tube. Wish I would have read the specs on the pump earlier...



I will just spend the money and get the MPC655 probably. It seems to be the best of the bunch from looking though the specs of the ones listed, I just wanted to save some money.
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If you are getting the 655 and are set on using fittings then you can get a $9.95 replacement top with G1/4 threads. The other tops don't increase the performance really, so you are only loosing out on looks.

You shouldn't need it with 1/2" tubing though, just get some hose clamps and you will be fine.
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Originally Posted by GingerJohn View Post
If you are getting the 655 and are set on using fittings then you can get a $9.95 replacement top with G1/4 threads. The other tops don't increase the performance really, so you are only loosing out on looks.

You shouldn't need it with 1/2" tubing though, just get some hose clamps and you will be fine.
what do you mean "don't increase the performance really" ...?
http://skinneelabs.com/laing-d5-top-comparison/
@OP i would recommend D5 (655 vario-5 spead)+EK D5 X-Top Rev.2 (very nice combo)
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=28303
or get the one mention 655 B (Without speed controller),both should have 1/2 native inlet/outlet ~make sure
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what do you mean "don't increase the performance really" ...?
http://skinneelabs.com/laing-d5-top-comparison/
I mean that they don't increase performance significantly. And they don't. In fact the Koolance top actually makes it worse.

If you put some restriction curves on there (see below) you will see that you can gain, at most, 0.25GPM over the stock top, and that is in a really low restriction system. In an average system you will be getting gains of around 0.125GPM. Not really game changing.


I have tried to copy the restriction lines from the next graph, they might be a little out but you can get a good idea from them.


Compare that to the DDC pump tops which provide a very significant increase in flow rate for all but the most restrictive loops:



Basically the stock D5 top is very well designed, there really is no need to replace it other than for looks, tubing compatibility or mounting arrangements (e.g. dual pumps).
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decoupling with any good top will make a difference ,noise/performance is worth 38$ in my opinion ,sure you won't make D5 to perform like X35 but you will get very quite/reliable pump for years to come ,if performance is on OP's mind for about the same $ he can get X35 and call it a day,is DDC as reliable as D5..don't think so,X35 to early to say
EDIT; as for restrictions...if that's on OP's mind get DDC 3.25 or X35
as for Black Ice® GT Stealth 240 -this is (30FPI) you need minimum 2000~3000RPM fans and headphones,no need for dust filters this rad works better than top notch filter ,look in to (20FPI)Black Ice GTX Xtreme 240
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